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BillESC

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I've told this story before but was at the church today and took a picture. I'm standing next to the United Unitarians Church taking a picture of the Mount Vernon Baptist Church. I installed the sound systems in both churches with the Baptist church first by several years.

When I finished the installation the the Unitarian church I received a frantic call from the Baptists the following Sunday....The Unitarians wireless mic was broadcasting through the Baptists sound system... :shocked!:

I had installed Audio Technica's ATW 2120 handheld wireless mic systems in both churches. A simple change of frequency of the Unitarians system fixed the problem, but hey . . . it looks to be more that the posted 300' of normal range not to mention walls, etc. :)

 

ascdj

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Yep - AT range is really something. Years ago when I got my 1400 from you, I went to another DJ's house to get it set up with my system. I was in the house and he was several blocks away and could still hear him on the mic. AT mics have always made me happy.

~CHuck
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
Not a total derailment... I have a Line 6 XDV35 Digital Wireless Handheld Microphone System.
http://line6.com/xd-v35/specs

A few times it has dropped out for a few seconds even when less than 50' away. I don't understand why.

I check the batteries (always Duracell) every time when I'm setting up and replace them if they are reading below full strength.

I had been keeping my wireless reciever inside my plastic rotomolded SKB rack for years, and never had a problem with my old Samson Airline 77 wireless (even with an auctioneer walking all around inside a venue or going through the wall to and adjacent patio.

Now I will be setting the reciever outside of the rack from now on and hope I don't have a problem any more.

If there are any more drop outs I'll be checking the warranty info to see about returning it.

I just don't understand why the older Samson UHF mic would outperform this new mic. Also the Samson had a lot better vocal response (I think that's the right term). I could put that mic on a mic stand in the middle of the B&G and the officiate about 4' above the ground and pick up the whole ceremony clearly from all 3 people.
This was a great inexpensive mic. IMHO
http://www.samsontech.com/samson/products/wireless-systems/concert-77/concert77hh/
 

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djtunes

Checking Reality
I see the samson is still on the market with updated frequencies.

$150... Hmmm!

I rarely had issues with that mic. and only when someones phone was too close to it.

Oh yeah! Only one big thing to note. That Samson mic could not handle loud talking or yelling. It would distort if you talked loud into it.
Nevermind, now I remember my only complaint about the mic. You have to talk ina normal talking voice. As soon as you get excited and try to put a lot of energy into it you have to hold it way awat from your mouth or it gets a lot of static.

OK it's a $150 mic that was just ok.

So back to my Line 6 problem... ?
 
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Arnoldo Offermann

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Roger, remember that digital mics will have more dropouts since data is more fickle than transmitting pure analog.

I wouldn't trade my 5 year old AT Mic for anything.. still the best sounding I've used!
 

Arthur

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Hello Bill,

Does A T also have the small transmitter/receiver package that works on batteries for camcorders? Can that be used for wireless audio?
 

maestro

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Be sure to set the handheld to 'HIGH' power on the AT for long range applications. Most people don't even know how to go into the menu. I regularly set it to lock it with the POWER ON setting so folks can't power it down accidentally. You need to set it on HIGH power even if you are transmitting only a hundred feet if you have a group of people standing in front of the mic as they will block the signal.
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
Probably because you are using it in "RF2" mode and have not scanned for clear channels. Switch it to "RF1" mode and then you won't need to scan.
I looked at my manual and the only adjustable settings are the channels (and the power button). Maybe you're thinking of another mic.
 

dboomer

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THH06 HandheldTransmitter
  1. Turn the transmitter off.
  2. Press and hold the channel SELECT button.
  3. While holding the SELECT button, press and hold the power ON button.
  4. The blue LED over channel 1 will flash three times to indicate that the transmitter is in the RF1 mode.
  5. To revert to the RF2 mode, repeat the above steps; the blue LED over channel 2 will flash three times when the transmitter is in this mode.


The receiver will switch-over automatically


http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2645
 

dboomer

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They might be interested in your success.
You might wanna re-think your idea of "success" just a little. When your wireless can transmit 1000 feet it's well past what you can possibly use because of the time lag. At 1000 feet the time delay is about 1 second. Wireless mics are typically used at distances less that 100 feet. If you need 1000 feet you should be using a walkie-talkie.

Having more power than you need, while a bonus in a sound system is generally problematic when it comes to radios. It means that you are getting into other people's equipment (and maybe into your own wiring), causing them problems as noted in the original post. Imagine if that same thing were happening but from the hotel next door and into your system. You'd likely never figure out where it's coming from. It also means that your receiver will be out searching for signal 1000 feet away and if there is any stray interference it will find it and have to deal with it.

Best practices when it comes to radio equipment is not to use more than you need for reliable communication. Extra powerful antennas and transmitters are not really the friends they might seem to be at first glance.
 

BillESC

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You might wanna re-think your idea of "success" just a little.
Don, respectfully, I never said it was a success or the desired result.

With all of the posts talking about drop outs (no particular brand is immune) I thought this unintended range would be of interest.
 

Maverick

Pumping It Up
Thanks Bill, we have four AT units that we purchased from you about three year ago, they all do have awesome range and when compared to our Line6 mics they blow them out of the water...
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
THH06 HandheldTransmitter
  1. Turn the transmitter off.
  2. Press and hold the channel SELECT button.
  3. While holding the SELECT button, press and hold the power ON button.
  4. The blue LED over channel 1 will flash three times to indicate that the transmitter is in the RF1 mode.
  5. To revert to the RF2 mode, repeat the above steps; the blue LED over channel 2 will flash three times when the transmitter is in this mode.


The receiver will switch-over automatically


http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2645
Thank you very much for that info.
 

dboomer

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Bill

My response wasn't to your post and not even directly to Ausumm's. It was just to point out the long range is rarely a benefit and usually a problem in the world of wireless.
 
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