Wichita Falls Rapper Goes To Jail

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Mr.Martin

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What's new?....No, this is different. This story actually made the national news.

A Wichita Falls rapper that goes by the name of "C-Nile" pissed the wrong people off. On his lastest CD, he mentions by name 2 Wichita Falls police officers as wanting them dead. He mentions their deaths will make him happy. Local police contacted national music store Hastings where all of this dudes CDs were pulled. I suspect they may have been pulled in other markets as well.

The cops here in Hooterville take death threats very seriously. They decided to administer a little Texas justice this past week. They arrested Mr. C-Nile for failure to pay his child support. Last reports still had him coolin' his heels in the slammer.

I'll exercise my right to free speech now. It's time to throw the key away on this dude.
 

musicexpressdj

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What an idiot! He specifically names two police officers and says he wants them dead.

I am sure the Hooterville chapter of MENSA is rescinding his invitation as I type this.

P.S. Mad Joe, I had the great pleasure of talking with you outside of the American DJ party in Vegas. I am the one who was in the Air Force and went to visit the local Masonic Lodge in Wichita Falls. It was a pleasure getting to know you and I hope our paths cross again soon my friend!
 

Mr.Martin

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Yes Rick. I do remember our conversation. I enjoyed speaking to you as well.

Although I have not heard the song in question, the news accounts indicate the rapper specificly names the officers he wants dead. You might get away with doing that kind of rap in L.A. or N.Y.C., but it ain't gonna fly in this town. I suspect his legal troubles are just beginning here in River City. :lol:
 

Maui Mobile Music Chuck

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I'm not condoning what he wrote and I have a number of friends that are cops,,, BUT what about free speach and a persons right to his or her views or ideas?

Why didn't the store in question pull CD's from groups that talk about hurting, raping, killing and other stuff that is offensive?

Killing cops... Bad.... Raping women/bit*hes & ho's.... OK....

Granted he named names, but still, what about comics/rapers/artists that use names when talking trash about people, or I'm sure there are other songs out there that name specific people and what we should do to them.

Where do you draw the line?
 

MIXSIRS

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Chuck

I don't like any of this type of negative lyrics whether against police, women or whoever but in this case indiviuals were named. It would be the same if a woman was named in a song saying she should be raped.
 

Rick Redding

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While I think the line is too lax... when you specifically name names, that would be a threat. Threats are actionable - I think - though tomorrow someone will probably rewrite the laws to make them ok too.

As for free speech, there has to be SOME frickin' responsibility and intelligence used. You may have free speech, but you can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded building or talk about hijacking a plane in an airport. There are limits. Just not enough of them, IMHO. :)
 

Mr.Martin

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Chuck:

There have been police groups boycott rappers before. Wasn't it Ice T that came under fire a few years ago? C-nile crossed the line when he named names. If the dude has a violent past and he threatened to kill you or one of your family members, wouldn't you feel better if he was behind bars?
 

EventsDJ

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Free Speech??

It amazes me how many people do not truely understand the laws in our country and our constitutional rights.

The 1st amendment gives you the right to 'freedom of speech'. It does NOT however protect you from the consequences of your actions. The rapper has already excersied his right to free speech, no one prevented him from saying what he wanted.

No one will prevent you from commiting slander or liable, however if you do, you can not hide the 1st amendment to protect yourself from a lawsuit.

Finally, the only thing the 1st amendment protects us from is broad sweeping congressional action.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That means your employer can restrict what you are allowed to say. Your employer can fire you for badmouthing the company (even if it happens off the clock) and you are not protected by the 1st amendment.
 

bill_smith

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I think the line is drawn when one's right to free speech impinges someone elses right to be left alone.

With free speech comes responsibility for one's words....and as Matt stated, the willingness to take the responsbility for any consequences of words and actions induced by those words.


Chuck, good thoughts...and deserving of a thoughtful answer.



Why didn't the store in question pull CD's from groups that talk about hurting, raping, killing and other stuff that is offensive?

Killing cops... Bad.... Raping women/bit*hes & ho's.... OK....

Granted he named names, but still, what about comics/rapers/artists that use names when talking trash about people, or I'm sure there are other songs out there that name specific people and what we should do to them.
Sweeping out the obvious trash is always easy...like this idiot that Joe posted about. Sad truth is that money speaks often times louder than principles in this country. Stores turn their heads to allow minors to get tobacco and alcohol knowing they are underage. They also do not do the things they should to prevent distribution of offensive material, exercising THEIR free speech and rights to not be subjected to things they find objectionable....and take the trash out.

For every man jack out there that feels it's OK to spew, there SHOULD be someone equally willing to stand up and be counted, and help offset this imbalance.

I think the real problem is that we've been beaten down by an insane flood of filth that we now find ourselves living in the same sewer as the rats.

The stores SHOULD do a better job of patrolling.

Now that's theoretical.

Let's put it into play at our events.

Take out the overly offensive songs out of your list...anything explicit, anything that based on the premise of letting your kids wife or Mom listen would generate shame when understanding the real words and meaning.
 

Maui Mobile Music Chuck

Life On A Rock :)
Joe, I'm not disagreeing on putting him behind bars for not paying his child support.... bamm!! he did something, or in that case, didn't do something... Yep, that's cool..

and as my wife would tell you I am NOT a lyric person, hell I can't even tell you the words to "Old Time Rock N Roll" so I have a hard time thinking of songs that have named other people...

But maybe Eminem, when talking about his wife, or what he wants to do to her, and maybe in his song he just picked on Moby, but in the video, he beat him up in a cartoon way...

and yes it was Ice T with the song "Cop Killers"... does he have the right to make it, yep and he got what he deserved on that one...

Do you think if this had been a "big time rapper" that they would have pulled his CD?

50, Kanye, Em? Maybe maybe not

all I'm saying is that I personally do not think it is fair to pick on that one guy by pulling his stuff, when I would bet worse stuff is still on the shelves.

I personally think it all comes down to the parents, the way they have raised their kids.... but that is a whole other thread....

:wink:
 

Mr.Martin

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Chuck:

I have a feeling that if big time rappers had named names of Wichita Falls officers as wanting them dead, their music would not be in the local Hastings.
 
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