what songs have you re-done?

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Steve Sharp

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This could go in either New Millenium or here....

Over the past 3 years of being digital, I almost always leave a job with small notes I make for myself at any given job... with things on it like songs I need to buy or dig the cd out and rip for next time, tag errors (I recently corrected "The Relfex" by Duran Duran), or songs that I want to redo the levels on.

For this week, my re-do song was "867-5309 / Jenny" by Tommy Tutone: the intro is just WAY too low. Considering how identifiable this riff is, it's important that the audience hear it. While I can (and did) crank the volume myself at the event, I went back today and fixed it manually for the future.

Not counting actual remixing, what song(s) have you altered, either the levels and/or equalization, in order to get the "sound" you were looking for?
 

GregWymer

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I made an edit of "Black Betty" that takes the long instrumental breakdown in the middle completely out of the song. Turned it into 2:13 long with no down time on the dance floor. Play it a lot more than I used to.

A good friend of mine took "MMMBop" by Hanson and edited it so that it starts off with the chorus first. The intro was too long and people never knew what the song was until the chorus kicked in. So he just put the chorus in at the start and took care of the problem.
 

djsoxfan

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I edited out the small :03 second pause in the Animal House version of Shout, right after the "wait a minute"
 

heydjbren

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I've done quite a few edits, including one that was released to radio stations by the artist's record company. However, my favorites have been "Play" by Jennifer Lopez (which removed the f-bomb break in the middle) and a stellar edit of "Let's Go Crazy" by Prince (blended the spoken intros just like the original radio edit did, then removed the electric guitar solo at the end). I also did a nice edit of "Oops...I Did It Again" when it was released, taking out the break in the middle and keeping the beat continuous.

I'm interested in hearing what others have done - keep 'em coming!
 

heydjbren

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"Still Not A Playa" by Big Punisher feat. Joe. The radio station I was working for at the time wanted to add it but it was too street-sounding for them, so I killed off most of Big Pun and added more of Joe's vocal parts. Our rep at Loud Records requested a DAT copy, uploaded it to BDS/Soundscan and sent it to other stations in hopes of getting more adds. Shortly afterwards, Billboard ran a story about songs that were crossing over from urban stations to CHR, and mentioned my edit of "Still Not A Playa". I didn't get any credit in the story (or anywhere else), but it was pretty cool at the time - especially considering that I was a low-paid production director working in market #177.

Just one of a hundred (or more) stories of my fabulous career in radio. :)
 

That Music Guy

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GregWymer said:
I made an edit of "Black Betty" that takes the long instrumental breakdown in the middle completely out of the song. Turned it into 2:13 long with no down time on the dance floor. Play it a lot more than I used to.

A good friend of mine took "MMMBop" by Hanson and edited it so that it starts off with the chorus first. The intro was too long and people never knew what the song was until the chorus kicked in. So he just put the chorus in at the start and took care of the problem.
Greg - The radio (AM) version at the time was in fact the shortened version. I actually have the 45
 

foster

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I'm currently in the process of remastering all of the songs on my iPod.

Originally I had ripped them at 224kbps, but recently decided I wanted them in .wav format. After some trial and error I discovered the iPod can handle .wav's, but can't handle the size of most .wav's flawlessly. The cache is too small and you end up getting digital skips, brief silence or it just skips that song and goes to the next. So the current plan is to rip everything at 320kbps, but keep the .wav's on a back-up drive for later use.

Most of the current music (or remastered best of's) is/are already heavily compressed and all I need to do is trim the front and back for silence. Some music you can only compress so much before you get distortion. Cat Stevens is a good example there.

When I'm remastering a track I start by opening it up in Adobe Audtion. A favorite plug-in of mine is wavehammer from Sony's SoundForge program. Wavehammer until I get the song where I like it and then just snip the ends.

Sometimes I need to clean up a digital skip or a click. Audition has a nice click remover in the effects section. The beginning of Helter Skelter is a good example of a click that Audition removed.

Finally, now that I'm using Media Monkey as my iTunes replacement, I add album art to each track.
 

Steve Sharp

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Foster... glad to have you in this conversation!

A couple questions...

How do you use a Sound Forge plugin in Audition? I'm told that some Mixmeister plugins I have can also work in Audition, but I don't know how to make that happen.

I'm interested in more information about wavehammer and media monkey, please
 

foster

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Steve Sharp said:
Foster... glad to have you in this conversation!

A couple questions...

How do you use a Sound Forge plugin in Audition? I'm told that some Mixmeister plugins I have can also work in Audition, but I don't know how to make that happen.

I'm interested in more information about wavehammer and media monkey, please
Open up Audition, Effects --> Refresh Effects List. It'll search your computer for plug-ins. Then you can access them from Effects --> DirectX. I use Wavehammer so often I finally added it to my favorites list. Not sure what the process is for accessing VST plug-ins, but I believe Audition can handle those as well.

Wavehammer is a plug-in that compresses a soundfile to bring the overall volume up. Say you've got a song and it has a few peaks that spike all the way to 0db. You can't normalize the song any further, but you can Wavehammer it. Wavehammer will slightly lower the peaks while bringing up the other levels. There's a bunch of settings you can tweak to get what you're looking for, but I just use the "Master for 16-bit" preset. Usually you can apply Wavehammer a few times before you start to hear any distortion.

I use MediaMonkey as an iTunes replacement for managing my iPod. It's the only program I know of, besides iTunes, that handles album artwork. It can also transfer videos to your iPod. Supposedly you can do a ton of things with MediaMonkey, but I just use it instead of iTunes.

http://www.mediamonkey.com/

Most of my remastering is just adjusting the levels and de-clicking, but once in a while I'll actually alter the song. For instance I wanted the beginning of a KLF song from the album version, but the body and ending of the 7" edit. I just copied and pasted what I needed from the album version over the 7" version in Audition. If something requires multiple tracks to edit I'll break out Samplitude (which is an awesome multi-track program).
 

mojoworkin

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I edited out the small :03 second pause in the Animal House version of Shout, right after the "wait a minute"
Boioioioinnng! Really? I sometimes PAUSE right there to leave the crowd hanging.... Crack the mic, tell the crowd to "Wait for it.... Waaaiiiiit for iiiiiiit...." then let 'Em HAVE IT.

You can do the same thing with "Tiiiiiin Rooof! Rusted!"
 

mcmusicdj

McMusic
I've gotten rid of the intro to the Cha Cha Slide or Casper Slide, depending on where your from.

I've also done away with the "Becky, look at her butt...." intro to Baby Got Back. This is great because often I'll lead into it by saying something about how I asked the groom what is it about his new bride that makes him want to wake up next to her everyday for the rest of his life? This is what he said..." (boom) I like Big Butts and I cannot lie....
Gets a great response everytime. Of course I only do this with certain brides who I know will have fun with it and don't necessarily fall into the "big butt" category.
 

DJTOAD

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As I started reading this thread, all i could think was WaveHammer and Dave beat me to the punch. Songs that have been greatly improved by Hammerin':

Footloose
Ice Ice Baby
Cotton Eye Joe
Electric Slide (12 inch)
Booty Call

All of my original recordings for these sounded awful.
 

DJTOAD

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I gotta disagree about editing out the intro to MMMBop......that riff is very recognizable and gets a lot of screams from the sorority girls when they hear it come in.
 

Handyman

M.C. Handyman
djrufhouse said:
Is there really a GOOD :D time to play MMMBop?
Brings down the house when played at just the right time, especially college audiences. I knew this would be a big hit the moment my March 1997 Promo Only Radio CD arrived. The yellow artwork on that CD must have been in reference to the question the song poses, "Is it going to be a daisy or a rose?" LOL.

Back to the original question. About the only edits I do are the songs I have recorded from vinyl to CD. Often I can clean up the surface noise without affecting too much of the audio quality just using Nero's Wave Editor.

If you do edit your music, keep in mind that unless the file you are editing is uncompressed, editing and resaving it to the same format can cause generational loss.

I have done a few music video re-tracks, though.
Most recently the Jellybean 12" version to Billy Joel's "Tell Her About It" video. That required an extensive re-edit of the video to match the audio track. I also used the Original "Electric Youth" CD to re-track Debbie Gibson's "Lost in Your Eyes" video I had taped off Friday Night Videos in 1989. Now it sounds better than it looks :)
 
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