So the mud slinging continues, and no solutions are presented.
Yes, welfare fosters dependency for far too many, so yes, your interpretation of my perspective is correct.1.) when you use the word "enabler" it is akin to saying its part of the problem, or part of the cause..
I'm not arguing semantics. I just don't want words put in my mouth. Actually I read what you've written, but I have no idea where you're going with it nor why.If you want to argue semantics that's fine.. but I think you knew the basics of what I was trying to say.
As a part of my Master's degree in Social Work, we studied the history of helping the poor in the United States. Hippy, I say this in all sincerity and with no wise-***-ness intended, I look forward to what you uncover. I always welcome the opportunity of leaning new things. -Z-actually it does..and I will have to come back to this topic as I will need to find direct examples of what I am talking. IE: I dont have the words at hand to correctly explain it :-(
basically its not a direct "bearing" or 'determination of position", EG: no one wrote a law that says 'they can't help the needy',
BUT as the church lost authority it also lost a segment of its ability to 'help' the poor.. How adoptions are now handled I think would be a great example of the change that happened over time..Someone had to 'pick up the slack' and that turned out quickly to be the 'state'.
As time went on it got worse (or better depending on your point of view)
Actually this is Byron signing in under DJSTEVEZ's account, LOL...just kidding. It wasn't my intent to start controversy (not saying you said it was). Initially I just wanted to share what I thought was thought provoking data. I guess that was foolish of me really to think controversy wouldn't ensue...I posted very specific BOSE Poll in the Gear section and someone urinated all over that...my point being I think it is just one of those things that any time or place when/where you have 10 DJ's there will be 11 different opinions. Not necessarily a bad thing if everyone can play nice...I suppose that is part of how we learn. -Z-Steve, it looks like you've started some controversy here. I'm not here to argue or to try to change anyone's ideology but I do take offense to those that are being judgmental without knowing anything about me. Hippydog is making assumptions about me and making himself an *** in the process.
Steve, it looks like you've started some controversy here. I'm not here to argue or to try to change anyone's ideology but I do take offense to those that are being judgmental without knowing anything about me. Hippydog is making assumptions about me and making himself an *** in the process.