Waasta left his comfort zone, but he found his security blanket again so all is well

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hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
I guess it does say banned under his name in his posts. Sooooo, maybe he'll be back?

His picture's gone too!!!

I knew something good was gonna come out of all this :)
Yes, the one good thing is now all the DJ's that were confused or threatened by Byron's stance can go back to normal.. ;-)

Everyone relax.. their is no such thing as a $500 DJ .. it was just a nightmare.. you can now put your rose colored glasses back on.. ;-)
 

Chris Michaels

Active Member
Byron is one of many DJs who have stormed into this forum only to create havoc, then be gone!
Actually what originally started the Havoc was a plug by "Peace" (who rarely posts on here) for for the TBWRE book and how he took a gig from a $500 DJ.

Byron just reacted to the EGO post.

I hope the plug helped sales :rolleyes:
 
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DJ Dr. Drax

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The manner in which people post as gotten coarser & coarser over the last year. That is simply not acceptable.

Somebody posting something that they were excited about shouldn't get the $500 DJ's pants in a wad anymore than the $500 dj that posts some comment.

Bryon's posting style is at the root of most of these disputes & issues. You don't tell anyone to F off & think it will be casual, even if via PM. A better standard of conduct should be expected from each of us. There is no reason to get to the point of name calling, accusing somebody of being a bottomfeeder or of raping their clients. Each is equally offensive to me.

Civility needs to return here as well as acting in a manner that is more conisistent with the TOS.
 

maestro

Well-Known Member
Wow, too many pages to read so I just read the first one. :) Why not put your rate up to $495.00 that way you're still in the 4 range and make some extra gas money. Hey, it's a start right?

I kind of know where you're coming from. I can book $895.00 for a Saturday summer wedding all day long but I don't have much luck at all at $995.00 because of all the low-ballers in my area. What I did was keep the rate at 995 for all 2011 inquiries I received in 2010, for prime summer Saturdays. I figured that if the client wanted to book way ahead to ensure they had the DJ of their choice, it was worth the extra. Once the calendar changed to 2011, I put my rate back to 895 for a prime summer Saturday. Bookings are picking up now. :)
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
I'll second that Drax.

Enough bickering too.

It's a lot of dirty laundry to go through for the readers.

Please just rise above it, and move on.
 

DJSTEVEZ

DJ Emeritus
Byron has to be held responsible for the choices he has made. As much as I like him, or anyone else, that's just how it goes.

It would be nice if those who practiced intolerance and thinly veiled baiting towards him were held equally accountable for their behavior as Byron is for his.

Let me be clear, this is not an anti-mod statement or post...just the opposite actually...you guys have handled juggling chainsaws with great dexterity and grace as of late. Perhaps Byron would've acted no differently had he not become public enemy #1 and all the razzing that went with it because of his pricing practices. BUT, that's not the way it happened and truthfully, we'll never know. For the record, I do NOT condone what he said to Bill S. I saw nothing in Bill's statement to Byron that warranted such a response. I just have to wonder if Byron's Columbine moment could've been prevented had he been treated a little better from his debut here. IMHO, the blood isn't just on his hands.

Forget the finger pointing on who should be doing this and who shouldn't be doing that. Change will only start when those questions are first asked of ourselves, and self initiated corrective action follows. -Z-
 
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Kacimlangford

Bose L1 Double B1 DJ
I am glad all this happened. Not that he got banned but that these threads got started.

After reading through all of the posts, I felt like I needed to raise my prices. I wouldn't have thought that if this thread and others with Byron had not been here.

I didn't raise my rates through the roof, but enough to help get me closer to that infamous 4 figure mark I have only hit a couple times with added extras and overtime.

Thanks Byron.
 

Mr.Martin

Retired Guest
Steve:

Since you didn't read all of the posts, you might want to go back and read the last 30 or so just to catch up.
 

Chris Michaels

Active Member
Maybe we should all agree that from NOW on not to discuss price since we all get "set off" by it.

That would level the playing field and we could get back to helping each other on performance and other cool topics.
 

Mr.Martin

Retired Guest
Chris:

Prices have been discussed on this board for the last 10 years I've been here. I'm sure you have seen the threads titled "How Much Should I Charge?"

What gets people in trouble is how they choose to reply to said posts. Over the last 10 years many people have come and gone because they "didn't play well" with others. I doubt that will ever change.

btw, I enjoyed visiting with you in Vegas.
 

DJ Dr. Drax

Active Member
Steve,

Yes IMO there are errors all around, but this issue is certainly bigger than one thread. There is plenty of guilt to go around but the point is everyone include the mods need to be more civil. Everyone here needs to act as if they were standing in that persons space.

I see comments thrown all the time that never would be if they were 3 feet from them.

Civility. Respect isn't earned, it's first given to everyone, later if they prove that respect was misplaced, they lost it, instead of being denied it.
 

Chris Michaels

Active Member
I think in this case, it was all about the price he charged and his willingness to defend it.

Things would have gone much differently if we had accepted his position and moved on. Remember he was having an allergic reaction to a post that was dissing $500 DJs.
 

hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
Everyone here needs to act as if they were standing in that persons space.
Civility. Respect isn't earned, it's first given to everyone, later if they prove that respect was misplaced, they lost it, instead of being denied it.
=D>

Perhaps Byron would've acted no differently had he not become public enemy #1 and all the razzing that went with it because of his pricing practices.
As Drax wrote.. Respect should be first given.. Many of us (including me) started assuming things about him from his first few postings..

Forget the finger pointing on who should be doing this and who shouldn't be doing that. Change will only start when those questions are first asked of ourselves, and self initiated corrective action follows.
and for anyone who reads Drax's post above and thinks THEY arent the problem.. Then they probably ARE part of the problem ;-)

Maybe we should all agree that from NOW on not to discuss price since we all get "set off" by it.
I would like to agree to that.. but I dont think I'm capable of it ;-)
 
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DJ Dr. Drax

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The biggest thing people can do to eliminate feeling defensive about their fees is just to leave their ego out of it.

If you have a written business plan that defines your rates & why you charge them, there is no need to get defensive. You have the proof in B&W why it should work for you.
 
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