Virtual DJ Tagging Question ???

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DJmirage

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I have been using VDJ now for about 6 months. I really love it. Before VDJ I had used PCDJ for about 7 years.

I love everthing about VDJ but I have a question. When I am browsing or searching through my music in VDJ sometimes ARTISTS will be listed in the TITLE column and TITLES will be listed in the ARTIST column. It is totally random it seems. So half of the tracks are correct and they are in the proper column, but the other half of the tracks are in the wrong column.

I have finished tagging all of my music with Tag & Rename so all of the tags are clean and exactley the same. I use the format TITLE - ARTIST for the file name. I have also tried changing the option in VDJ to where it reads just the TITLE and I have also changed it to where it reads the TITLE & COMMENT. I can't figure this out. I have uninstalled VDJ and reinstalled it. I have stripped the tags in Tag & Rename and put them back on. I'm running out of options. What can I do to get my recordcase neat so everything matches and is orderly???? Thanks in advance for your help!
 

sowndman

Active Member
You might try turning off the reading of the tags. VDJ doesn't use a record case. It just read the info direct from my computer. New files are scanned and added to the xml file alone with cue points.

I believe there is a plugin or program which will reverse the artist/title. You will have to check on virtualdj.com for that.
 
Hi,

I have my VDJ just read the file name...

My file names are set up as:

ARTIST - Song Title [MIX]

Then if the other info such as Intro/Ending/BPM is known they are setup like this:

ARTIST - Song Tilte [MIX] [:00/COLD/ 125 BPM]

Seems to work fine for me...

But I'm going to give this a try, a third party program SKIN that is from this place to use within VDJ that has FULL ID3TAG support and places the HARMONIC MIXING info in it too that is if you use HARMONIC MIXING, etc…

http://www.mixshare.com

I think it is at the VDJ forums under the download "Plug Ins" area...

It is now called "V.Mix 5.2" by DJ FORMAT

Description:
Multi instance version of Vmix5.1 Click on the skin to see other versions. "3" New pannels added for larger video displays. "2" New pannels for launching default effects from the decks, including skip beat functions New EQ Fader Center Pannel Fine adjustments to other areas including finalising graphic effects on pre-release pannels NEW! Deck pannel 5 now with remain warning indicator! EQ Fader Center Pannel Pannels arranged in order from large video to small. V mix 5.2 EQ Fader Center Pannel updated Created for VirtualDJ version 4.0 / 4.1 R2 /4.2 R1

There are different variations of this download, etc...

Good Luck,

DJ TAO :)
 

DJmirage

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sowndman
I believe there is a plugin or program which will reverse the artist/title. You will have to check on virtualdj.com for that.
You are correct, there are many out there. I use "TAG & RENAME" but thats not my problem I don't believe.

DJ TAO of TAOTRONX
But I'm going to give this a try, a third party program SKIN that is from this place to use within VDJ that has FULL ID3TAG support and places the HARMONIC MIXING info in it too that is if you use HARMONIC MIXING, etc…

http://www.mixshare.com

I think it is at the VDJ forums under the download "Plug Ins" area...

It is now called "V.Mix 5.2" by DJ FORMAT.

That is the skin I am currently using.
I have also tried the default skin for VDJ.
I have tried both skins, even on different computers and still no results???

IMPDJ
Your problem is not in the “TAG”
You need to fix the “FILE” name.
Fix the tag name HOW?
If you are refering to changing it to ARTIST - TITLE then that still doesn't make sense.
If that were true then ALL of my titles right now would show up in the artist section and ALL of my artists would show up in my title column.

Thats not what is happening though. Some ARTISTS are showing up right and some are showing up wrong and some TITLES are showing up right and some are showing up wrong. BUT ALLLLLLL of the FILENAMES are consistent in how they are named.

ALL of my file names are CONSISTENT as in ALL of them are TILE - ARTIST

Yes, I could switch them around, but that doesn't explain how once in VDJ they are all mixed up???
 
I believe that the "VDJ program" looks at "file names" and defaults them into the "play list" area to be displayed as whatever the file name is labled first as "ARTIST" and then whatever is seperated by " - " as "Song Title", etc...

Double check you settings under the "config" panel to make sure it is not setup to only be reading the "file names", etc...

Other than that it may just be another pesty bug that maybe will be addressed in the next update???

I myself can't beleive that they didn't implement ID3TAG support or ID3TAG reading from day one, etc... :shock:

Good Luck,

DJ TAO :)
 

IMPDJ

New Member
We will use this pic for an example:
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5qhodrpGZGcBRUqjzbkF/SIG=12c5gqrtq/EXP=1186711528/**http://www.hot-download.com/ss/tag-rename-screenshot.gif


Look at the first Track:

File name = 08 We be like this
Artist = Jadakiss
Title = We be like this

The example above will NOT work with VDJ

Sample below is Correct:
File name = Jadakiss - We be like this
Artist = Jadakiss
Title = We be like this

To change the file name in Tag & Rename:
Right Click
Edit File/Folder Name
Change to Jadakiss - We be like this
Then Click Save Tags

Hope this helps.
 

Johnny Dee

Website Design & Success Moderator
Staff member
As mentioned, the files should be artist - title

Be sure there are no other - (dashes) in any of the names. Also be sure there are no ' (single quotes) or " (quotes). I'm not sure if / create a problem also. All of these can cause problems in how VDJ reads the file name.
 

DJmirage

New Member
We will use this pic for an example:
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5qhodrpGZGcBRUqjzbkF/SIG=12c5gqrtq/EXP=1186711528/**http://www.hot-download.com/ss/tag-rename-screenshot.gif


Look at the first Track:

File name = 08 We be like this
Artist = Jadakiss
Title = We be like this

The example above will NOT work with VDJ

Sample below is Correct:
File name = Jadakiss - We be like this
Artist = Jadakiss
Title = We be like this

To change the file name in Tag & Rename:
Right Click
Edit File/Folder Name
Change to Jadakiss - We be like this
Then Click Save Tags

Hope this helps.
Yep, already done all of that.
I know how to use Tag & Rename Thanks though

Thats how I have it setup.
I've been straightening up all of my file names and tags inside Tag & Rename for the past month because I thought that would be the answer to my question but it's not.

I also just swaped around the file names to ARTIST - TITLE rather than TITLE - ARTIST


BUT I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM


This is what my file names look like on the computer:

ACDC - You Shook Me All Night Long
Aerosmith - Walk This Way
Bob Seger - Old Time Rock N Roll
CCR - Proud Mary
Chubby Checker - The Twist
DJ Sammy - Heaven
Earth Wind and Fire - Let's Groove
Joan Jett - I Love Rock N Roll
Red Nex - Cotton Eyed Joe
Village People - YMCA



AND HERE is the confusion that I see in Virtual DJ:

ARTISTS...................................TITLE
ACDC.......................................You Shook Me All Night Long
Aerosmith................................Walk This Way
Old Time Rock N Roll................Bob Seger
CCR.........................................Proud Mary
The Twist................................Chubby Checker
Heaven...................................DJ Sammy
Earth Wind and Fire................Let's Groove
I Love Rock N Roll....................Joan Jett
Red Nex..................................Cotton Eyed Joe
YMCA......................................Village People


AND YES, all of my tags are right:

File name = ACDC - You Shook Me All Night Long
Artist = ACDC
Title = You Shook Me All Night Long



HELP!
 

IMPDJ

New Member
You mind sending me one of those MP3 files? ( in fo @ I m p dj . com )
I did have some bad tags like in the example, but once corrected the problem went away.
 

iresq

New Member
Hopefully 4.4 with IDE3 tag support will be coming soon. That's keeping me from this program.
 

sowndman

Active Member
I would just manually fix them as they get played. All yo hage to do is right click over the file and select rename.

I you scan your HDs for files, then you can use the local database to find any song. If you type in "acdc" it would not matter if it was the artist or title.


I no longer have any need for tags.
 

DJmirage

New Member
Be sure there are no other - (dashes) in any of the names. Also be sure there are no ' (single quotes) or " (quotes). I'm not sure if / create a problem also. All of these can cause problems in how VDJ reads the file name.
Ok, I did see that a lot of my songs had () in them with comments. Once I took out the () or the ' or " then VDJ read them fine.

Although I still have some files that don't have any of that and they still are reading weird. I know that it is something inside VDJ because it reads perfectly inside PCDJ FX. But I don't like using FX anymore.
 

dcdj

Grand Poobah
VDJ 5.0 is expected this week and they are including ID3 tag support, Finally! PCDJ's recordcase is pretty much the only reason I still use it. If VDJ has finally got this right I might switch over full time.
 

DJmirage

New Member
Heck Yeah!

Where did you read about 5.0 being released?
Just curious. I had no clue that they had a new release coming so soon.

Thanks

Yeah hopefully that should do it.
 

dcdj

Grand Poobah
There's a video on their forums in the "general discussion" area demonstrating some of the new features, and I've read in a couple posts about the DJ Expo that it's supposed to be released today along with a website re-design.

Of course, "today" in this industry should always be taken with a grain of salt -- so hopefully this week.
:D
 
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