Three Gigs with the new Speakers..

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bestdjinfl

Florida's Premier DJ
SO after nearly 10 years of using my KV2 and RCF systems I sold them all and got an awesome, versatile, lightweight, great sounding system all bran new. I purchased 4 Mackie SRM650's and one Mackie SRM 1850 sub. So far I have had 3 totally different type of gigs to really test these on...

Gig #1 Wedding 227 People Plantation Golf & Country Club, Venice, FL
This was the perfect set up for the full monty of this system. Plantation has 3 ball rooms (All have wall dividers ) that are actually 1.5 the size of the normal ballroom. They used 2.5 ballrooms for the reception and a small bar and 1/2 a ballroom for the cocktail hour. I was set up in the far east corner against the closed wall divider. I ran my little Samson Expedition ceremony system for the cocktail hour wirelessly and it worked like a charm. Anyway being I basically had 3 ballroom's size wise to cover I ran 1 SRM650 to the far front of the room (To cover all guests during dinner) and set up 2 650's on stands and one on top of the sub close to the dancefloor. Using my Pioneer DJM5000 I had the far speaker on a separate zone so I could control volume easily on that speaker being it was basically a fill speaker. It was an awesome wedding. I never received so many compliments on my sound ever. The 650's are so smooth no matter how hard you drive them I kept the eq on flat and eq'd through the system. The sub being as light as it is worked so well with the 650's. They totally passed the BIG VENUE BIG CROWD Test...

Gig #2 Wedding 42 People TPC Sarasota, Florida.
This was a quaint small reception only in a small room at TPC I used just 2 SRM 650's and set this time to DJ mode. WOW! At low and high volume the clarity was amazing. No Harshness what so ever and the bottom end very in fact the Banquet Manager asked me where I hid the sub? All in all second gig second great outcome with these speakers.

Gig #3 Selby Gardens Sarasota, Florida Wedding 116 People
This is a great venue the room is good sized and could fit 150. I ran a Mackie on the porch (Again connected to my zone output on my DJM5000) as the bar was out side and the patio is huge. At lo levels the whole area was covered outside with just the one speaker and it was so clear. Inside I used 3 SRM 650's (NO SUB) 2 on stands on the dancefloor and one wireless in the other corner of the room. Another gig where I had the caterer, many guests, and the photographer compliment me on the awesome sound they hear. There is a ton of glass in the room I was in I was requested NOT to use a sub. I didn't need it the Low end from these 3 speakers was awesome. Very happy again with the purchase.

All in all my new system (Each SRM650 is 47 Pounds and the sub is only 64 pounds) is light, very flexible, and sounds pristine. I am so far extremely happy with the purchase. I got the SRM 650's all four for $1785 shipped plus I am getting ($400) back on rebate from Mackie. The sub was $690.00 shipped. I purchased Tuki Covers for all the above for $350.00. So total was $2825.00 down to $2425.00 after rebate. I sold my 2 RCF's for $825.00 and my KV2 EX10's and sub for $1575.00 Meaning for a net of $25.00 I have a brand new extremely versatile system that I could not be happier with!
 
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bb

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SO after nearly 10 years of using my KV2 and RCF systems I sold them all and got an awesome, versatile, lightweight, great sounding system all bran new. I purchased 4 Mackie SRM650's and one Mackie SRM 1850 sub. So far I have had 3 totally different type of gigs to really test these on...

Gig #1 Wedding 227 People Plantation Golf & Country Club, Venice, FL
This was the perfect set up for the full monty of this system. Plantation has 3 ball rooms (All have wall dividers ) that are actually 1.5 the size of the normal ballroom. They used 2.5 ballrooms for the reception and a small bar and 1/2 a ballroom for the cocktail hour. I was set up in the far east corner against the closed wall divider. I ran my little Samson Expedition ceremony system for the cocktail hour wirelessly and it worked like a charm. Anyway being I basically had 3 ballroom's size wise to cover I ran 1 SRM650 to the far front of the room (To cover all guests during dinner) and set up 2 650's on stands and one on top of the sub close to the dancefloor. Using my Pioneer DJM5000 I had the far speaker on a separate zone so I could control volume easily on that speaker being it was basically a fill speaker. It was an awesome wedding. I never received so many compliments on my sound ever. The 650's are so smooth no matter how hard you drive them I kept the eq on flat and eq'd through the system. The sub being as light as it is worked so well with the 650's. They totally passed the BIG VENUE BIG CROWD Test...

Gig #2 Wedding 42 People TPC Sarasota, Florida.
This was a quaint small reception only in a small room at TPC I used just 2 SRM 650's and set this time to DJ mode. WOW! At low and high volume the clarity was amazing. No Harshness what so ever and the bottom end very in fact the Banquet Manager asked me where I hid the sub? All in all second gig second great outcome with these speakers.

Gig #3 Selby Gardens Sarasota, Florida Wedding 116 People
This is a great venue the room is good sized and could fit 150. I ran a Mackie on the porch (Again connected to my zone output on my DJM5000) as the bar was out side and the patio is huge. At lo levels the whole area was covered outside with just the one speaker and it was so clear. Inside I used 3 SRM 650's (NO SUB) 2 on stands on the dancefloor and one wireless in the other corner of the room. Another gig where I had the caterer, many guests, and the photographer compliment me on the awesome sound they hear. There is a ton of glass in the room I was in I was requested NOT to use a sub. I didn't need it the Low end from these 3 speakers was awesome. Very happy again with the purchase.

All in all my new system (Each SRM650 is 47 Pounds and the sub is only 64 pounds) is light, very flexible, and sounds pristine. I am so far extremely happy with the purchase. I got the SRM 650's all four for $1785 shipped plus I am getting ($400) back on rebate from Mackie. The sub was $690.00 shipped. I purchased Tuki Covers for all the above for $350.00. So total was $2825.00 down to $2425.00 after rebate. I sold my 2 RCF's for $825.00 and my KV2 EX10's and sub for $1575.00 Meaning for a net of $25.00 I have a brand new extremely versatile system that I could not be happier with!
Nice review. Have you a/b the Mackies against any other speakers before buying them? If so, thoughts?

In Gig#3 what did you use to run the speaker wireless. I currently use the Shure PGX Lav System (non-D) and that works great up to 200 feet. Always, seeking new/better options.
 

bill_smith

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I think he would be hard pressed to find a similar cabinet throwing out 1600 watts with a 15 inch bass bin and wooden construction Robert.

There may be a QSC or EV ZXA equivalent, but the 1600 watts appears to be a huge increase fro mthe 1000 watts cabinets we hear about from QSC and EV. I may have to get those.
 

Conanski

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I think he would be hard pressed to find a similar cabinet throwing out 1600 watts with a 15 inch bass bin and wooden construction Robert.

There may be a QSC or EV ZXA equivalent, but the 1600 watts appears to be a huge increase fro mthe 1000 watts cabinets we hear about from QSC and EV. I may have to get those.
But all is not what it seams. If you dig into the specs you will find that the new SRM1850 is actually 800w RMS which is less than a PRX618XLF at 1000w RMS. Even worse.. when you look at the 550/650 spec that 800w RMS is divided equally between the low and high freq drivers(400w each) but the compression driver will never use more than about 100w so this is really just a 500w RMS box, and it won't produce as much clean SPL as a Yamaha DSR for example which is "only" a 1300w box but has a more favorable power split between drivers with 2/3's of it going to the woofer.
 

Conanski

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All in all my new system (Each SRM650 is 47 Pounds and the sub is only 64 pounds) is light, very flexible, and sounds pristine. I am so far extremely happy with the purchase. I got the SRM 650's all four for $1785 shipped plus I am getting ($400) back on rebate from Mackie. The sub was $690.00 shipped. I purchased Tuki Covers for all the above for $350.00. So total was $2825.00 down to $2425.00 after rebate. I sold my 2 RCF's for $825.00 and my KV2 EX10's and sub for $1575.00 Meaning for a net of $25.00 I have a brand new extremely versatile system that I could not be happier with!
Good to hear you are enjoying the new speakers. I have a pair of SRM1801s and they are very easy to move and sound great IMO and according to my DJs and their clients so it would appear the trend continues.
 

bestdjinfl

Florida's Premier DJ
So far I am highly pleased I would take this system against anything. I compared to QSC, JBL, and others for me these are the best sounding. Sound is an opinion though. I love the weight, power, and clarity the best.
 

bestdjinfl

Florida's Premier DJ
Nice review. Have you a/b the Mackies against any other speakers before buying them? If so, thoughts?

In Gig#3 what did you use to run the speaker wireless. I currently use the Shure PGX Lav System (non-D) and that works great up to 200 feet. Always, seeking new/better options.
Yes I love the fullness and clarity of these better than the others I heard. I'm using a line 6 instrument wireless set up works awesome
 

bb

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Well stated Paul.

MFG marketing Specs me little to me. Side by side comparison is the way I choose a speaker. I'll have to find those Mackies to give them a listen. A small, lightweight 18 inch sub is appealing to me. Currently I use the Yamaha DXS12 and 15. Good but sometimes I desire more. A concern with Mackie is overheating. The 450s had those issues, hopefully that is fixed by now.
 

bestdjinfl

Florida's Premier DJ
4 gigs here in Florida the past 4 weeks speakers worked 4-8 hours no heat issue @ all at any event so far
 

DJSTEVEZ

DJ Emeritus
I've passed on responding to this thread several times as I didn't want to offend anyone or be seen as a "Label Queen".

Based on everything I know and have read about Mackie speakers over the past several years, there's no way I'd ever purchase them for my business and especially not their subs. Perhaps there are some who don't know, but "back in the day" Mackie manufactured their speakers in Italy. Those are the speakers that earned Mackie a wonderful reputation as bullet proof workhorses.

Mackie has since sold out to Loud Technologies based and manufactured in China. The quality issues and replacement parts issues are legendary and the stuff of nightmares. The pages of the forums here have many of these stories. I know I can't be the only one here that's familiar with them. I wish you all the best with your recent acquisitions. Perhaps Mackie has turned things around and cleaned up their act, but given what I've read and heard, there's no way I'd ever purchase their speakers, especially for use in an area fraught with the punishing climate perils of Florida. I'm not trying to urinate on your parade, but I think you're courting disaster.
 
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Ken Heath

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Since SteveZ pointed out the 900 lb Gorilla in the room, let me add a little bit from my experiences. One problem the "newer" Mackies have had is usually misdiagnosed as an amplifier problem with the subs, (ie: amp burned up and fried speaker), it's actually the reverse of that; the speaker driver failed and caused the amp to burn up. Mackie amps are still great, they've just changed from the very high quality (and higher priced) RCF drivers, to a substantially cheaper off-the-shelf Chinese drivers.I have repaired/replaced/upgraded a couple of these "new" subs with RCF drivers and they absolutely ROCK!
 

bestdjinfl

Florida's Premier DJ
I've passed on responding to this thread several times as I didn't want to offend anyone or be seen as a "Label Queen".

Based on everything I know and have read about Mackie speakers over the past several years, there's no way I'd ever purchase them for my business and especially not their subs. Perhaps there are some who don't know, but "back in the day" Mackie manufactured their speakers in Italy. Those are the speakers that earned Mackie a wonderful reputation as bullet proof workhorses.

Mackie has since sold out to Loud Technologies based and manufactured in China. The quality issues and replacement parts issues are legendary and the stuff of nightmares. The pages of the forums here have many of these stories. I know I can't be the only one here that's familiar with them. I wish you all the best with your recent acquisitions. Perhaps Mackie has turned things around and cleaned up their act, but given what I've read and heard, there's no way I'd ever purchase their speakers, especially for use in an area fraught with the punishing climate perils of Florida. I'm not trying to urinate on your parade, but I think you're courting disaster.

Funny MOST powered speakers are made in China ELX's, etc. Anyway Friday and Saturday both hot days here Heat Index near 100. Friday 4 Hours 3 SRM650's pushing them hard for 3+ hours (Not so much the first 2 hours but banging the last 3) No issues what so ever were cool at the end of the gig. Saturday Under a tent 95+ heat index 6 hour gig no issues. Nothing but compliments on the clarity and wonderful sound of my system. I always say each to his own. Use what you feel comfortable with I am sold on these the tone is amazing. I also on smaller gigs under 150 do not need subs in most venue's the base is very nice.
 

bill_smith

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As a current Mackie owner of the original 450's, 2 sets, 1 12 years old, the other 8, I can attest to the amazing sound, that even today, inspires me to not buy something new. I think as long as you are careful and abide by the users manual which specifically tells you not to use a sonic maximizer or other big bottom unit that distorts the signal into something it isnt engineered for, you will be just fine. enjoy them sir, and thanks much!
 

DJSTEVEZ

DJ Emeritus
Funny MOST powered speakers are made in China ELX's, etc. Anyway Friday and Saturday both hot days here Heat Index near 100. Friday 4 Hours 3 SRM650's pushing them hard for 3+ hours (Not so much the first 2 hours but banging the last 3) No issues what so ever were cool at the end of the gig. Saturday Under a tent 95+ heat index 6 hour gig no issues. Nothing but compliments on the clarity and wonderful sound of my system. I always say each to his own. Use what you feel comfortable with I am sold on these the tone is amazing. I also on smaller gigs under 150 do not need subs in most venue's the base is very nice.
I can't tell you how happy I am to hear that. Mackie took it on the chin several years ago...badly. Maybe it's that they have changed their ways. Based on your experience and field testing it sounds that your Mackies perform admirably and are quite reliable. Awesome! -Z-
 

bestdjinfl

Florida's Premier DJ
I can't tell you how happy I am to hear that. Mackie took it on the chin several years ago...badly. Maybe it's that they have changed their ways. Based on your experience and field testing it sounds that your Mackies perform admirably and are quite reliable. Awesome! -Z-
I will keep you posted as I value the feedback of all our members and hope to keep contributing. Give them a listen they are very nice. I spent 6 months deciding on my new speakers heard them all drove all over to check out different suppliers, other DJ's, etc. So far very very happy. Thanks for the feedback..
 

bestdjinfl

Florida's Premier DJ
As a current Mackie owner of the original 450's, 2 sets, 1 12 years old, the other 8, I can attest to the amazing sound, that even today, inspires me to not buy something new. I think as long as you are careful and abide by the users manual which specifically tells you not to use a sonic maximizer or other big bottom unit that distorts the signal into something it isnt engineered for, you will be just fine. enjoy them sir, and thanks much!
Exactly. Know what you're working with.
 

Ken Heath

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Many, many things are made in China... some are made to 20% tolerances, while others are made to .05% tolerances... it all depends on how much the buyer pays and pays attention!!! ;)

I can get speakers that look nearly identical to the Mackies or the EON's for about $100 each with any name on them I like... but the amps might burst into flames on first try!
(I've seen it happen in a booth at NAMM to a Chinese supplier... very embarrassing for them).
 

bb

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But a follow-up "encore" song can't be played. Burning down the house!
 
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