Sucess rate on ripping collection

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DJ-JC

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Well the process has started ,ripping all my music. I have searched the forum for this question but came up empty.
What I am doing is ripping cd's using Audiograbber to mp3. Then I will MP3gain them to 91. Next step is to use MP3Tag Tools to convert all to ID 3.v2.
I rip to mp3 at the default for audigrabber. I hear some say here to slow down rip speed, but I see no such setting when you convert to mp3 directly. Also some say the process is 15 minutes per cd,,well mine averages about 5 minutes (red flag here?).
Anyways I do get some bad rips ,,, about 15% of what I do. Some songs have little glitches like sutle clips, or some have volume moving around at bit. Also some have long silence at endings when Audio grabber should of taken care of this (I think).
Yup , some of my disks are a little scratched, but some of the ones that had problems are pratically in mint condition...and some of the dog chewed ones are surprisingly ok.
Bottom line,,,,, two questions,,,
1.is there a piece of a puzzle missing here ? (ak:software to detect a sour rip)
2. Do you people listion ALL coversions prior to playing them for a venue?
I am being forsed to, and was wondering if this is the norm. I got two files,,onme is "ok to play" and the other is "play at your own risk" (no previewed yet".
Regards and many thanx for your responses,
dj-jc
 

Booch

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Good question! I'm over half done ripping my CDs and noticed (by shear luck) the other night that 2 tracks had blips in them! Ironically, they were both the last tracks on their corresponding CDs. So...do I need to check everything now?

Booch
 

jwg

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Any time there is a smudge or a scratch, Audiograbber picks it up as a 'ticking' noise throughout the portion of the mp3 that's bad.

Best thing I can say is to make sure your source CD's are clean and as scratch free as possible.
 

DJ Dr. Drax

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One of the secrets to flawless ripping is to slow down the ripping process. Oftem running maxed out generates errors. While it takes longer, the process for me produces ZERO errors.

I rip in mass at slower speeds then encode as a secondary step overnight.

By following this I never have a bad file.
 

Booch

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Drax,

What do you consider a slow speed? From watching my screen, mine is around 13x to 14x.

Booch
 

DJ ED E

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I've always heard you have less chance of problems if you rip to wav and then batch encode . Also if you are ripping don't do anything else on your computer

Just my 2 cents
Ed
 

Booch

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Ed,

That's exactly how I do it. Drax recommended setting Audiograbber at 10x speed, which I will do for the remaining discs I need to rip.

Booch
 

DJ-JC

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thanx everyone for all the responses so far. I may switch to ripping to wav rather than directly to mp3 to see if it betters my situation.
Keep the comments coming in on sucess % on your conversions. I would take a educated guess that those who have had 100% sucess would never forgo a preview of a tune if it was a first dance or other important songs (or would you????).
For curiousity sakes there is one question I had that really could be covered ......how do you adjust rip speed in audiograbber (cd to mp3 mode) if there indeed is such a setting.
regards,
dj-jc
 

jimmie

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The only way to be absolutely certain that there are no problems is to use Exact Audio Copy. It's slow, but it's 100% accurate.
 

DJ Dr. Drax

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That's hogwash, EAC is not perfect, nor exact. Nor is it the only way to get good rips. I know plenty that have had issues with it as well. I have used AG for almost a decade now & I don't have a single bad rip. The only time I did was when I was pushing the limits of what the hardware was physically cabable of doing. Like running 40x on a 40x drive. Once I settled in at about 10x I got both speed & accurate reliable rips. I have yet to have to redo a file ripped as I described.

Sorry, System performance has more effect on the outcome than software. It is just how it is. There really is no such thing as a perfect ripper or a poor one. It comes down to can your hardware support the drive DAE speed. Just cause the Drive might DAE at 40x doesn't mean the rest of the system can support it.
 

Booch

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dj-jc,

Under Settings, just change the DAE speed from Default to 10x...or whatever speed you want to rip at.

The thought of having to listen to thousands of songs to make sure they ripped OK is making me nauseous. :silly:

Booch
 

bobbyd

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I'm going to step on the edge of the box on this one. I might fall in and I might fall out. As music pro's, we know what songs we need or even might need on the road. I know just like you know.... memory is cheap ...but I am not going to waste time (T=$) to rip a 5 cd set of Time Life library of classic favorites just because I can. As it pertains to converting tracks to MP3 I feel as though my time is better spent slowing down the encode/rip process ( just like Drax says) and only select the tracks that I know I have use for. What's in it for me is that I and have a better knowledge and total command of my performance library.

Bobby
 

jimmie

DJ of the year
DJ Dr. Drax said:
That's hogwash, EAC is not perfect, nor exact. Nor is it the only way to get good rips. I know plenty that have had issues with it as well. I have used AG for almost a decade now & I don't have a single bad rip. The only time I did was when I was pushing the limits of what the hardware was physically cabable of doing. Like running 40x on a 40x drive. Once I settled in at about 10x I got both speed & accurate reliable rips. I have yet to have to redo a file ripped as I described.
Hogwash? What are you, 80? It's fantastic that you have a solution that works well enough for you, but EAC is widely regarded as the best ripper available - and that's based on testing, not opinion. It has several features not found in AG and for someone who is experiencing issues (which you have stated you are not), it would be first on my list of recommendations to correct the problem.

http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac00.htm#-

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC
 

DJ Dr. Drax

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80? I suggest you watch your mouth, There is no need to be insulting, further, Insults will not be tolerated, EAC is NOT the best ripper, the best rippers are not even brought forward on any of the sites you state. The best rippers cost more money than most here are willing to spend, This all comes down to personal choice. He has made his.. There is NOT ONE REAL AUDIO EXPERT on those sites you state. Just a bunch of individuals. No major recording Engineer for a major label weighing in with definitive scientific testing that is replicated, just a bunch of individuals. Nothing on that site has blown me away, WOW I take that back, I am impressed by their support for windows 95 & NT.....

# Usage of the Windows 95 and Windows NT ASPI Interface, so both SCSI and ATAPI CD-ROM drives are supported. copyright 2002.....
It promotes the BladeENC, yet how many people even use BladeENC? None that I know of. Blade hasn't made any major advancement since shortly after the new millennium....

BTW Yeah, slow down to nearly 1x..... There is a great idea for a guy with 10K songs to rip............. no sense in even considering there are other options with faster results simply by changing settings on a program he already has....... If EAC were so great it would be the default, defacto ripper everyone uses, but it isn't is it? Why is that? Maybe because they find that they can Rip very accurately & reliably at 10X the speed simply by adjusting the settings best for their machine.....

In the end it is a personal choice on software, when discussing free tools.
 

jimmie

DJ of the year
DJ Dr. Drax said:
80? I suggest you watch your mouth, There is no need to be insulting, further, Insults will not be tolerated, EAC is NOT the best ripper, the best rippers are not even brought forward on any of the sites you state. The best rippers cost more money than most here are willing to spend, This all comes down to personal choice. He has made his.. There is NOT ONE REAL AUDIO EXPERT on those sites you state. Just a bunch of individuals. No major recording Engineer for a major label weighing in with definitive scientific testing that is replicated, just a bunch of individuals. Nothing on that site has blown me away, WOW I take that back, I am impressed by their support for windows 95 & NT.....

# Usage of the Windows 95 and Windows NT ASPI Interface, so both SCSI and ATAPI CD-ROM drives are supported. copyright 2002.....
It promotes the BladeENC, yet how many people even use BladeENC? None that I know of. Blade hasn't made any major advancement since shortly after the new millennium....

BTW Yeah, slow down to nearly 1x..... There is a great idea for a guy with 10K songs to rip............. no sense in even considering there are other options with faster results simply by changing settings on a program he already has....... If EAC were so great it would be the default, defacto ripper everyone uses, but it isn't is it? Why is that? Maybe because they find that they can Rip very accurately & reliably at 10X the speed simply by adjusting the settings best for their machine.....

In the end it is a personal choice on software, when discussing free tools.
Yeah, you're right. In fact, you're always right so I should not even bother to argue. It's one thing to give your opinion, it's another thing entirely to tear down someone else's opinion. You could have stated that you prefer Audiograbber because you have had success with it without making it sound like I'm an a**hole for even mentioning EAC. If you want to talk about rude, how about the guy who says "that's hogwash" instead of "That's not accurate" followed by solid reasons, not just "I know plenty that have had issues with it." If you're going to disagree, fine, but try be nice about it.
 

DJ Dr. Drax

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Excuse me? I am sorry if hogwash offended you. But it was the only word that replaced the one I wanted to use. BTW, You are the one that started down the road of right & making matter of fact absolute statements......

The only way to be absolutely certain that there are no problems is to use Exact Audio Copy.
That is not a dfference of opinion, you stating that EAC is the ONLY way. That is simply false.

I am sorry if I offended you if I stated my view too strongly in response. I am not always right, I am just rarely wrong, but wrong enough to know that even if I am "right" making an enemy is not my goal.... So I apologize if my tone was too direct in response to your quote above.
 

Cap

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Copyright © 2005 DJ Dr. Drax
Okay, buddy, I don't know who you are but you're not the Draxx I've know for 8 years.

Who the hell are you? What's this "nice" crap? What's this sensitivity? and Humility??? :shock:

Tell me what you've done with my friend, and tell me now!! :x
 

Bryan Durio

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Cap: Don't tell anyone, but we have the real DJ Dr. Drax bound and gagged in the basement of the Fusa Lodge. We're holding him hostage until everyone agrees with him.
 
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