Song Keys

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KennyZail

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I've been checking my song keys on virtual DJ and I've noticed that not one of my thousands of songs is listed as a major key, using the Camelot System, all are in minor keys. Has anyone else noticed this? Does it have to do with TM Studios? Does my Virtual DJ have an issue?
 

NickyB

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I've noticed this too ad I'd also be interested to know why. Maybe this is a good question for the VDJ board and their programming staff. It's most likely a software algorithm when their software scans for the BPMs. To get around the issue, I've elected to display the "key numeric" in my header instead of "key". I find it a better fit for using the Camelot system.
 
@KennyZail...why do you ask? Are you trying to mix songs in Major keys? I'm always interested in hearing about how people mix tracks in identical keys. I like to mix them in relative keys as it sounds more interesting. Helps that I'm a Music Major though...
 

KennyZail

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I like to create mixes and medleys. I've noticed in some YouTube videos that some club style music is listed as being in major keys and yet I've never found any of my songs listed as being in a major key.
 
I see! I never trust the programs...I always figure it out by ear and categorize it myself. Sometimes the mix will change keys...so wouldn't you think the program is going to list the modulation? NO! Better to experiment on your own. Helpful tip...if you're mixing an origianl song that hasn't been remixed, I like to look at guitar tabs and find out the keys.
 

Tim English

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What version of VDJ are you using?

Just for fun, and on a sort of related note, I showed this video from musician/composer Tim Minchin to my daughter the other day when she was asking about musical keys
 

Steve Lynch

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I used Mixed In Key, and it's really accurate. You don't have to have a mac to use it, just to scan your collection. Totally worth it if you can get it done.
 

NickyB

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KennyZ -
The keys won't show up in VDJ until you either play the track or force VDJ to scan for BPM. I've still got a bunch of music CD sets (like Time Life's 40's-50's CD set) that I've ripped but haven't scanned yet. Therefore I don't believe the keys will show up automatically.
 

Steve Lynch

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they should in fact show up... it's part of the tag at that point, so it's just a field that should populate just fine... let me go check....
 
Do you limit yourself to mixing the key of A with only songs in the key of A, for example? I know some DJs refuse to mix a song in that doesn't match the key the current song is in.
 

NickyB

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I used AudioGrabber to rip the majority of my older CD sets and it doesn't produce tag info during the rip process. I have to scan for BPM once I move these into the VDJ library. Sorry for any confusion.
 

KennyZail

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they should in fact show up... it's part of the tag at that point, so it's just a field that should populate just fine... let me go check....
I bought the program Mixed In Key, it DOES NOT automatically change the key in VDJ if different. You have to go to the song and manually change it. I did see if you put in the new Camelot conversion ( for example, 8B) - VDJ will convert it to the new key too.
Also I have found some songs that are in completely different keys, if Mixed In Key is correct. Check what key you have for Cool Kids and All About That Bass in your DJ programs (VDJ, Traktor, etc).Let me know what key they say...
 
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