Ripping music

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djmarcburgess

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Please forgive my ignorance on this. I am just getting ready to delve into the world of digital.

My question is this: When ripping music onto my hard drive, does it matter what program I use to do so? Can I just use Media Player?

Thanks in advance.
 

Booch

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Hi Marc!

Honestly, I don't think it really matters which program you use...and there are many! As you can see from the "sticky" at the top of this forum, most folks around here use Audiograbber. Whatever you use, just be consistent in your settings and make sure your tags are correct and complete.

Booch
 

Booch

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Marc,

I'm not sure if Media Player can pull down the album info from the internet or not....anyone?

Edited to add - It's a free program without any extra baggage, too.

Booch
 
Reasons not to use media player:

1 - It's slow
2 - DRM 'nuff said
3 - no choice on output type

Using AudioGrabber, you can rip to your hearts delight to wave files during the day, then normalize and convert them overnight. I use the lame encoder with AG, Joint Stereo, High, 192 kbs. The 192 seems to be a good tradeoff in quality vs size. That's just MY opinion...others have their opinions. Let YOUR ear be the judge.
 

Bryan Durio

Music and Videos Moderator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management

Digital rights management (DRM) is the umbrella term referring to any of several technologies used to enforce pre-defined policies controlling access to software, music, movies, or other digital data and hardware. In more technical terms, DRM handles the description, layering, analysis, valuation, trading and monitoring of the rights held over a digital work. In the widest possible sense, the term refers to any such management.

The term is often confused with copy protection and technical protection measures (TPM). These two terms refer to technologies that control and/or restrict the use and access of digital media content on electronic devices with such technologies installed. There are technical measures that could be used not to restrict use or access, such as to monitor use in order to record rights of a content consumer, DRM critics argue that the phrase "digital rights management" is a misnomer and the term digital restrictions management is a more accurate characterization of the functionality of DRM systems. Some digital media content publishers claim DRM technologies are necessary to prevent revenue loss due to illegal duplication of their copyrighted works. However, others argue that transferring control of the use of media from consumers to a consolidated media industry will lead to loss of existing user rights and stifle innovation in software and cultural productions.

The European Community is expected to create a Recommendation on DRM in 2006, phasing out the use of levies (compensation to rights holders charged on media sales for lost revenue due to piracy) given the advances in DRM/TPM technology.
 
Depending on the version of Windows Media Player, it will automatically assign a digital license key to the ripped file, making that file unplayable on any other computer than the computer which ripped it.

I believe media player 10 does this automatically, not sure about ver. 9.

Before anyone chimes in, I know the DRM license can be transferred to another machine. But what a pain in the arse! Just us audio grabber, or even the ripper in your dj software.
 

djmarcburgess

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Things are starting to become clearer. I have not purchased any DJ software yet because I haven't decided which to go with.

I want to rip my music to an external drive. Should DRM matter at that point?
 

James Kane

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Quite simply Windows Media Player is the wrong tool for the job. DRM is unacceptable for files that you create from your own library. Not to mention the Codecs are crappy and/or closed.

The best way to rip is to bite the bullet and get AudioGrabber or Exact Audio Copy. The first is the most commonly used among DJ's, while the second is the one I use personally.

Then point them to a copy of LAME. I recommend using the --preset cbr 192 (or better) setting. This will give you high quality CBR files that will work with nearly any CPS out there.

If you need further help with installing either of these, go ahead and let us know which one you have. I'm sure one of us can get you up and running.
 

NickyB

Gear and Equipment Moderator
OK, so now I've got a relatively simple question. I'm using PCDJ-RedVRM from a Dell laptop. I have AudioGrabber, BPM ScanPro and Tag & Rename also. I prefer AudioGrabber for ripping but spend a lot of time entering subsequent data into the tags; things like the comment fields (i.e. BPM T-nnn/trk - weekly release date etc.) and the genres......

I DO NOT use this laptop online; it never see the internet, so I enter the tag data manually. Can AudioGrabber retain this stuff in the proper field so I don't have to add it later while inside RedVRM?

NickyB
 

Kevin Nichols

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Hey Marc, shirts come in yet??

Ok, I don't know where ya'll are getting your info that you can't use WMP. I use either it or PCDJ FX to import. You can import MP3 at any bitrate (I use 192 soon to be 320) and I can play it on any computer.

Marc, I'm coming down to Orlando next week. Let's try to get together and I'll set up your computer for you to do this.

Kevin
 

djmarcburgess

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Kevin,
I'll buy lunch, beer, whatever if you can help me with that! And no shirts haven't come in yet, haven't even seen a proof yet but my card was charged! In all fairness, they did say it would be mid-April for delivery.
 
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