Puck Q6a or not?

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bb

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So are the new Q6A not a good purchase if I don't plan to go wireless (thus, waste money on stuff it can do I'll never use)? I simply want a kick butt uplight that can shot up a wall very well and change to most any color or shade of color I tell it to by pre-setting it on the can and without the need for a controller when doing simpler jobs. What should I get?

I do like a somewhat wide v-spread versus a tight v. 25 degrees may be to tight going up a wall 10 - 20 feet high.
 

NickyB

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Which Q6 you gonna get ..... the RGBA or RGBW? You could most likely save a few bucks going with the Puck-3NX. It all depends on your application and how many you plan to buy. I bought a dozen Q12+'s and have been very happy thus far but these are way too intense for Dance Floor wash.
 

BillESC

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A 25 degree beam will shoot up a wall nicely and reach the 20' you're requesting. A wider beam spread will not and die out at 12 or so feet. The Q6/A will give you a larger color palette than the Q6/W but pastel colors will be difficult.
 

maestro

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With the W you can do pastels. If I were starting over with uplighting, I would only purchase RGBWA all in one LED fixtures, any less would be pointless in this day and age since the price has come down so much.
 

bb

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With the W you can do pastels. If I were starting over with uplighting, I would only purchase RGBWA all in one LED fixtures, any less would be pointless in this day and age since the price has come down so much.
The Blizzarad Puck 3 RGBWA couch potato series has this and you can use an IR Remote too. I'm very interested in going this way but don't like the rainbow/shadow effect and feel the output may be weak for a 15 - 20 foot ceiling. Anyone here now. The Fab5 has all 5 put I've heard they are noisy and not sure of the ouput is much greater than the puck series. Spec wise yes, side by side comparison not sure by how much?
 

Chuck Amstone

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I have Q6A wireless and so far extremely pleased. I had an event last night where they wanted amber/gold. Just turned on the amber and it covered beautifully.

Best Uplight I've bought so far.
 

jturk1000

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I have Q6A wireless and so far extremely pleased. I had an event last night where they wanted amber/gold. Just turned on the amber and it covered beautifully.

Best Uplight I've bought so far.
Wireless built in, Chuck, or using the WiCicle?
 

DJ Jonny T

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I have both the Q6W's and the Q6A's. Most of the time it doesn't matter, some of the times it does matter whether I use the ones with Amber or the ones with White.
 

bb

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So if the Q6A or Q6W don't have much difference why not get 12 of each. If so, will they work well together? Will the colors look identical for example pink, purple, blue, green, etc. we be the same or a little different to the A and the W.

If it weren't for the Fab 5 fan noise complaints I'd probably just get 24 of those and cover all colors.
 

jturk1000

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The lights I use have a pretty loud fan (maybe you remember my hail-Mary purchase direct from China), and we've used them dozens of times. Yes, when we're setting up you can hear the fan noise, but as soon as people enter into the room and simple ambient discussion begins, you can't hear them anymore. Throw in some dinner music and forgettaboutit... I would be shocked if the Fab5 fans were louder than these. I just ordered 16 Fab5s with WiCicles, and can't wait until tomorrow when they arrive!
 

NickyB

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bb -

The Rainbow effect? My guess is you're speaking of the "halo" when mixing colors that is caused by using separate RGBAW LEDS as opposed to the newer tri, quad and penta LEDS which cost more. I've found that the 'halo' can be eliminated by putting a sheet of Glad 'Cling Wrap' over the plastic lens as a diffuser. Use the self-stick kind that looks almost like wax paper. The advantage is this stuff comes off easily, its inexpensive and works great. I've done it with 24 Chauvet SlimPAR-64's and so far, I've just left it on the fixtures.
 
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bb

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The lights I use have a pretty loud fan (maybe you remember my hail-Mary purchase direct from China), and we've used them dozens of times. Yes, when we're setting up you can hear the fan noise, but as soon as people enter into the room and simple ambient discussion begins, you can't hear them anymore. Throw in some dinner music and forgettaboutit... I would be shocked if the Fab5 fans were louder than these. I just ordered 16 Fab5s with WiCicles, and can't wait until tomorrow when they arrive!
I look forward to a review on the Fab 5 when you get them. I'm stuck between getting those are the Q6W. From research I'm told the W is a better choice than the A. They say the W is brighter and it'se easier to mix colors than with the A. Smart minds here may know differently?
 

Chuck Amstone

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Best thing to do would be to buy one of each and play around. I too was torn between the A or W but chose the A. Glad I did...I get more requests for Amber/Gold. Personally...this light is able to acheive any color I want. because of the Amber...I'm able to produce deeper/richer colors.
 

jturk1000

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My thought on the A versus W question (I nearly purchased these instead of the Fab5) was to purchase the W. In the event that I wanted a dark color that I couldn't get with RGBA, I could purchase some gels and tape them over white - this is quite inexpensive. I'll post my review of the Fab5s after trying them out - should be able to do this this weekend. I have a middle school dance on Friday that I typically take uplighting to, and I'll do a side-by-side with some other units I have.
 

jturk1000

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Another product you might consider are Steve Lynch's Cinco RGBA lights (http://extremeeventdesign.com/store). For a great price, these can be WiFi enabled (built in - no adapter required!) and you can also have them equipped with rechargeable battery. These units have 9 x 5 watt LEDs and the beam angle is about 40 degrees. My current ones are 9 x 10 watt and have a pretty tight beam angle (so they'll hit high targets) - so for these reasons I decided on Blizzard's units. The Fab5s are 7 x 15 watt LEDs and boast a 25 degree beam and 29 degree field angles. Steve's units otherwise sound like fine lights and his pricing is excellent. And I really love the idea of having the WiFi built in on the circuit board so you don't have to be concerned with WiCicles or other adapters.
 
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bb

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Same thought here if I get the W I can use Rosco gels when needing a pure amber or yellow, which I heard is the plus side for the A.

Q6W or Fab5 is the debate for me now if the gel method will satisfy the color issue. I assume the Fab5 will take care of all of the A and W concerns and give me more punch when needed because of 15w over 10w.

It comes down to is it worth spending more for the Fab5. Will the difference be worth it. Or just a tad bit easier for color mixing is all I'll notice?
 

BillESC

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Unfortunately your thinking is flawed. Gel is subtractive by nature, it removes all of the colors not wanted delivering only the desired color. Incandescent and halogen light sourced are full spectrum, LED's are not. Diodes emit very narrow slices of the light spectrum.

The gel color you use may not give you the color you want.
 
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