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jturk1000

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WOW - it's been too long since I've been on this site. I like the look and new search functionality!

I have an Audio Technica 3000 series microphone receiver. I use the hand held as my main mic (love it), and periodically use the lav mic for wedding ceremonies. I've never liked the lav mic. - always had problems with feedback/gain, dropped signals... Time to move ahead.

So I'm looking for a nice replacement, and I know there's some great opinions out there. Range of $600 to $700, I think...
 

Mark Evans

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Looking myself and so far most have recommended the Line 6 35l for $299.99. And feel free to post more often, the site is moving like never before.
 

NickyB

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You mioght want to check the frequency band of your AT's before you leap. Next year the FCC will be auctioning off the 600 Mhz band just as they did the 700 Mhz last year. Any wireless systems in those ranges will be illegal.

This forced me to go to Line 6 XD-V70's and V75's which operate in the 2.4 Ghz band. I have three handhelds and one headset plus I added the lav as an alternative. BTW their lav mic uses a cardioid pickup pattern which is similar to most handhelds as opposed to an omni pattern characteristic to a majority of other brand lav mics.
 

jturk1000

And WHERE is Alma MI ?!
You mioght want to check the frequency band of your AT's before you leap. Next year the FCC will be auctioning off the 600 Mhz band just as they did the 700 Mhz last year. Any wireless systems in those ranges will be illegal.

This forced me to go to Line 6 XD-V70's and V75's which operate in the 2.4 Ghz band. I have three handhelds and one headset plus I added the lav as an alternative. BTW their lav mic uses a cardioid pickup pattern which is similar to most handhelds as opposed to an omni pattern characteristic to a majority of other brand lav mics.
Looks like the 70 is no longer being sold, but the 75 is there. I've always held your opinion in high regard, and have heard consistent great things about line 6.
 

NickyB

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My first pair were v70's (handheld and headset), but when I finally had enough cash to purchase the second pair, the V70's were no longer available. I held off until I could check with Don Boomer of Line 6. Once he informed me that the V70's were completely compatible with the V75's, I bought two V-75's and plan to get another pair later this year. My V-70 mics DO WORK with the V75 receivers. This resolved my problems because often times I use my zone out to feed the V70 belt pack to transmit to as many as three remote powered EV ZXA-1 speakers.
 

Ken Heath

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FYI: Tech note... using a "Zone Output" is fine, HOWEVER, using a "Booth Output" is not, the booth out is specifically for booth monitors and does not get a feed from the mic channels, while a zone out is for feeding a separate public area of the venue.
 

BillESC

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A change of lav mic for the Audio Tech 3000 system is probably all you need and possible a bit of tweaking of the transmitters settings. I'd be happy to discuss it with you.

Alternatively, I'm a Line6 dealer.
 

maestro

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Jeff, I'm with Bill. I have three 3000 systems and they are great mic's. I have two handhelds and one lav. Have you ever set the transmitter on HIGH when using it as a lav? I always do that and have no issues. I read the manual cover to cover and there is some really good info in there on how to adjust the gain, transmitting power, lock-out settings for the power, etc... Let me know if you want to sell it. :)
 

DJSTEVEZ

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Shure has some awesome new stuff out, but in our price range (IMHO) Line 6 owns the market and just can't be beat. -Z-
 

bb

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Nicky, for the wireless setup. Surely, you're saying one body pack to one receiver. Or, are you saying one body pack controls three receivers set to the same channel, I suspect this would cause terrible noise and feedback is my assumption. Please clarify. If the one to 3 ratio can work, I'm interested in knowing this. Maybe there is something unique with Line 6 over Shure.
 

Ken Heath

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No, what he meant was the Line6 components are all compatible and interchangeable... Sometimes at ceremonies I will switch the base unit from the channel of the grooms lav to the handheld the singer will use, them back to the lav... I can't use them simultaneously from a single base but I can switch them back and forth in situations where they don't have to work together. I can use my XD-V30 handhelds on my XD-V70 base units, and vice-versa my XD-V70 beltpacks with the XD-V30 bases, (V70/75 has 12 operating channels to select from and rack-mount base units, the V30/35 has six selectable and the base units are free-standing)
 
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BillESC

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If you think of your body pack (or handheld) transmitter as a radio station and your receiver(s) as transistor radios, you'll see more than one receiver can operate at the same time picking up the signal from a single transmitter.

We do a In-Water boat show where I deploy several receivers on different piers, each feeding its own active speaker. The marina owner plays music and makes announcements which can be heard everywhere in the marina.
 

oldschooldj

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I have run up to four of my powered speakers off one Shure FP series body pack, hooked to a 20db antenuator (spelling) between it and the mixer and four Shure FP receivers. All spread out at multiple distances (under 200 ft) and in other rooms seperated by doors, walls and hallways.
 
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NickyB

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One body pack to three receivers set to the same channel as the body pack. As for Line 6's being unique, NO ... in the past I've done the same exact thing with up to five EV RE2 receivers tuned to the same channel. The reason I made the switch to the Line 6's was because I didn't want to get caught in the FCC's auctioning of the 600 Mhz band and the Line 6 V-7x series operate in the 2.4 Ghz range. For now my EV's all work just fine in the upper 600 Mhz range until early next year. The same thing happened to me in 2012 with five AT systems that were all in the 700 Mhz band ..... one AT survived that operates in the upper 500 Mhz band. That's 18 wireless mic systems in roughly three years which really S|_|CKS thanks to the Federal Government !
 
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bb

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I'll have to try this on my Shure SLX and PGX units.
I know you can't have two mics on the same channel, in the same room, without weirdness happening.
 

NickyB

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bb -
I think you can have multiple Shure SLX receivers going with one body pack or the same with multiple PGX units. However I don't think you can mix SLX and PGX receivers. The only real way to know is to check the frequencies on which they operate. If they're on the same carrier frequency they'll work but IMHO, I don't think a PGX receiver will pick up an SLX transmitter or visa-versa.
 

dboomer

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It's not just the frequencies that must be co-ordinated but also the squelch/pilot tone systems and the companders. Of course none of those things are in digital wireless :)
 

jturk1000

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Jeff, I'm with Bill. I have three 3000 systems and they are great mic's. I have two handhelds and one lav. Have you ever set the transmitter on HIGH when using it as a lav? I always do that and have no issues. I read the manual cover to cover and there is some really good info in there on how to adjust the gain, transmitting power, lock-out settings for the power, etc... Let me know if you want to sell it. :)
I'd have to take a look - I think I'm on HIGH. Periodically I'll get drop outs for a second or up to about 8 seconds. I attribute this to the body pack rather than the lav. Over the last few years I've sent it in for repair, but typically the news is, "we can't find anything wrong with it". Once they replaced the some of the circuitry inside just to make me happy. When the mic does cut out (never a problem with my handheld), the levels on the receiver go out - the battery indicator goes down to zero and the receiver pickup (that's not the technical term) on the left goes to zero. Then when it decides to, it comes back on. Four battery bars out of four. AND I always allow the microphone receiver to choose the best frequency based on where I'm working.

I use my lav infrequently, so I'm not frequently disgruntled about this. Over the last couple months, I've done a few ceremonies, and one cut out several times. I was no further than 100 feet from the officiant who was using the bodypack/lav.
 

jturk1000

And WHERE is Alma MI ?!
You mioght want to check the frequency band of your AT's before you leap. Next year the FCC will be auctioning off the 600 Mhz band just as they did the 700 Mhz last year. Any wireless systems in those ranges will be illegal.

This forced me to go to Line 6 XD-V70's and V75's which operate in the 2.4 Ghz band. I have three handhelds and one headset plus I added the lav as an alternative. BTW their lav mic uses a cardioid pickup pattern which is similar to most handhelds as opposed to an omni pattern characteristic to a majority of other brand lav mics.
I'm in the 500's - typically 540-ish.
 
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