New Product Review - Bose L1 B"2" Bass Bin

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adjtogo

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Can't compare traditional designs with Bose. Those endorsements may compare to apples to apples, but you can't compare apples to oranges. I still think there are way too many backyard electricial engineers out there.
 

Cap

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Just came back from a wedding with about 200+ people. I loaned my DJ friend 1 B2. He ran one L1 Model 1 with 2 B1s and the other side with 1 B2. Mixer EQ flat, Model 1 presets at 00.

It sounded great.

With an hour to go, and at the start of the cha cha slide, he turned off the B1s (disconnected the cable) and ran with a single B2. I was out and away in another portion of the segmented banquet room about 150' away when he did it. I've have never ever heard the Model 1 with any numbers of B1s jump like the the single B2 did. I could feel the bass response in the Cha Cha Slide BUT it was crisp, clean, and authoritative.

Now it's up to anyone whose interest has tweaked to give it a listen and make a self-evaluation. But let it be clearly understood, the raves from existing L1 owners is gonna make ya puke.
 

adjtogo

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I just got mine in last night. My first impression of the size was a little larger than I thought, but I'm totally impressed for them being lightweight for their size. I've lifted other subs that weighed much more than that!! With that in mind, I may keep two B1's for smaller events and sell the other two.

I have to download the new firmware and install them through my T1 to the power stand. I'll be doing that this morning. I have an outdoor wedding today, but do not plan on using the new B2's today. I have an indoor reception on Sunday and will using them then. Can't wait!!
 

Cap

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DJ Louie: I haven't received any official word from the Mother Ship on how this is to be accomplished. I'm offering it here in my area to any one who needs it. Maybe, someone in the Atlanta area can help you out.
 

Arthur

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I have Model ll's and been using other subs powered by the powerstand. If you put a dummy plug in the bass line out it will drop the bass by -16db. That's what I've been doing with 12" subs. I suggest that someone here who has the B2's to try the dummy plug and check out the switch on the B2 in all positions. That is probably going to be the answer or part of the answer for those who do not have the T1.
 

adjtogo

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Just got back home from the wedding. All I can say is "Wow"!!! What a freakin' difference!!! I'm amazed!!! Awesome!!!! All of my B1's are going up for sale!!!

I was in a facility that could hold up to 300 people. I used two sets of the LI MII's with a B2 on each. I connected into my T1 Tonematch system with my laptop connected into the T1 with a 1/8" on one side and 1/4" into my T1. When I first started out, I played at a lower level. I could tell a difference right away that the sound was more robust and very clear and crisp. Once dinner was over, it was time to dance. I turned up the volume a little more and I could really hear the bass deeper and louder than it ever was with using two B1's on each L1 MII. When I started playing Gangnam Style and more current hits, I just about crapped my pants for the shear bass coming out of those B2's.

And to think I am waiting on Bose to send me a firmware update for my T1 and power stand so I can use the + on the back of the B2. Once the firmware is updated, it will be like using four B1's on each L1 MII. I'm awestruck!!!

The only negative thing I have to say is the slip covers don't have any padding. I need to find something better than those to protect my investment.
 

MBM

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[h=5]Used the B2s at a Sunday night reception. 1st event with the new B2s in "normal" switch position and my L1M1s. I was running the L1s with preset 58, had to turn the bass down some during dinner time. One the dance floor was open and I set the Bass back to flat on my mixer, wow these things came alive, no it's not like my old EAW 18" subs, but blows away the 4 B1s, faster setup and tear down and save 10 lbs too. Very happy with them. Anyone buying a new system with 4 B1s would be crazy, the 2 B2s are cheaper (unless the B1s price drops), plus the B2s kick the B1s butt.[/h]
 

wavesound

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Is there any advantage to just grabbing an A1 PackLite and using a B2 with the Model I and entirely ignoring the integrated amplifier?

I prefer the layout and added headroom of the L1 Model I for the events I do to that of the Model II.
 

Cap

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There are two integrated amplifiers in both the Model 1 and the Model 2. One for the radiators and one for the bass bins. They are identical amps in both models. Not sure where you're going with this but if I can help clarify, we'll give it a shot.
 

wavesound

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There are two integrated amplifiers in both the Model 1 and the Model 2. One for the radiators and one for the bass bins. They are identical amps in both models. Not sure where you're going with this but if I can help clarify, we'll give it a shot.
Cap, sorry I wasn't clearer. Your past posts state that (+) mode should not be used with the L1 Classic/Model 1. However, I just assumed that mode was acceptable with an A1. However, upon further reading, I believe the L1 DSP needs to be aware of the B2 in order to use the B2 switched modes.

http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/2090098556
 

Cap

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Wavesound : In lay terms, the ( + ) mode on the B2 when used on the L1 Model Classic and L1 Model 1, actually doesn't do anything. The end user of the L1 Model Classic and L1 Model 1 will/should not hear any difference in bass response switching the B2 from the ( norm ) to the ( + ).

IMPORTANT REMINDER : Regardless of which L1 Model being used, every time the B2 switch setting is changed, there will be a slight momentary system audio drop out of a second or so.

The ( + ) setting is electronically designed to communicate with the powerstand settings in the updated Model 2 and the new Model 1S which activates the internal firmware enhanced bass frequency setting.

When using the B2, owners of the L1 Model Classic and L1 Model 1 in the ( norm ) position can achieve almost the same firmware enhanced bass frequency setting ( + ) as the L1 Model 1S or L1 Model 2 by changing their powerstand preset to 57 and/or 58.

With the A1 PackLite Amplifier, the owners of the L1 Model Classic, L1 Model 1, and the L1 Model 2 may/can add ONE MORE B2 to each powerstand. The new Model 1S does not have the baseline out jack, therefore is limited to one B2 per side.
 
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wavesound

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Cap and others with B2s and an L1 Classic/M1,

Based on my experience with the B2 thus far. I have noticed that when the (+) mode is selected on the B2, it raises the crossover frequency on the L1 Classic/M1 to that of a B1 connected. Without it, I've noticed that I can hear some distortion caused by severe port turbulence from the L1 Classic/M1 as it attempted to reproduce some mid-bass notes. I would recommend running the L1 Classic/M1 with the B2 in (+) mode instead of Normal for that reason.
 

Cap

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wavesound: To reach this conclusion and your findings, how many different powerstands did you use? What preset was being used on the tested M1/Classic powerstand? Was your input source 1/4" or xlr? Were you using the R1? T1? Was it across the entire music selection spectrum or on specific songs styles/genres?

Not doubting your personal observation with your system, however the switch mode, as you've described, doesn't follow, was not our experience in our pre-release tests. It would be something worth duplicating with your settings and testing it exactly here too.

Thanks for your information and look forward to replicating your observations.
 

bunndjco

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Bose tuning

Tonight was my first real gig with my L1M2 and 2 B2 subs. I had an L1M1 and 4 B1s in the past. I will say, that this system is much better than my last one, but I still don't think I have it set up right. Anyone use the Bose L1 stuff with the Pioneer DDJ-S1? I just don't think I'm running the mixer the right way. I am not in the red, so that's not the issue. Also, I have done the firmware update on the powerstands. Any help on tuning my system (the DDJ-S1) to be optimal with the Bose L1 stuff? Thanks!
 
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