New Product Review - Bose L1 B"2" Bass Bin

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Cap

Always At Your Service
New Product Review - The Bose L1 B2 Bass Bin

two 10" woofers in a single +/- 44 pound cabinet, and still fits under a standard banquet hall provided table;

only one per system. Additional B2s can be added to the L1 Classic, L1 Model 1, and L1 Model 2 using the L1 PackLite amplifier option, except on the new L1 M1S, which does not have the bass line out option;

three position switch on the rear panel : ( - ) ( norm ) ( + );

for L1 Model Classic and L1 Model 1 owners, supposedly only the ( normal ) switch will work for you. My tests produced slightly different observations but absolutely consider ( norm ) as your best performance option;

for the new L1 Model M1S owners, supposedly the B2 firmware update comes already installed;

for current L1 Model 2 owners, your firmware needs to be updated (actually a must). The L1 B2 sound quality in any position on a non-updated L1 Model 2 was awful. I'm not sure how the manufacturer is going handle firmware updates but I'm sure Bose will be announcing the procedure very soon. I personally will do what I can to assist my existing and new customers through the process;

for newly purchased L1 Model 2s, firmware updates of pre-stocked units and how a user is to determine if it needs one will need to be identified. An educated guess says it'll be by serial numbers;

firmware updating will require a L1 Tone Match Engine, a computer, and downloading of the latest L1 T1 and L1 Model 2 updates/presets.

L1 B2 test observations:

The L1 B2 provides a considerable boost in bass presence in the ( norm ) and ( + ) modes. The L1 B2 bass response, as with the L1 B1s, remains linear with volume input (the more volume, the more bass). The throw was significantly farther and one could feel the pushed "air".

As always on any product engineered by Bose, the clarity and quality of the audio is superb, and, in my opinion, one L1 B2 markedly exceeds that of a pair of L1 B1s.

As a working DJ, and based on personal testing, my L1 B1 bass bins and my Mackie 1500 subs have become instantly expendable, to be replaced by four L1 B2s and two L1 PackLites. They undergo real world field tests at a 150 person wedding Friday and 260 person wedding Saturday. In both cases, I will be using two updated L1 Model 2s and two L1 B2s where normally it would be the two L1 Model 2s and four L1 B1s (stacked 2 x 2 side by side) .

A single L1 B2 is $499.00; a single L1 B1 is $299.00 ($598.00 a pair). For more information, I'm at your service. 518.399.7451 capcapello@gmail.com.
 

Arthur

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Excellent Cap! Keep us posted.

I was going to go to the Mountain on October 15th. They're having a big announcement and show. I guess this is it huh? I was really hoping they would come out with a stereo T1. Using two for stereo can be confusing.
 

adjtogo

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Just got off the phone with Bose. The rep told me that just one B2 is equivalent to four B1's. I placed an order for two B2's since I have two L1 MII's. I also ordered another T1 Tone Match since I have two separate DJ setups. The new T1 will replace an older Mackie 1202 mixing board. The new bass bins and T1 will be here in 7-10 days as it's being shipped from the warehouse in Arizona. Can't wait until they arrive next week!! I wanted to order mine now before they sell out and become back ordered.

Now, to list my four B1's on ebay...unless anyone here is interested in them.
 

RhinoRider

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I am really close to buying a new setup of Speakers- so with this coming out-
which is the best option to purchase
2- B2's right
and the old L1's or the newest L1s models
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
It's interesting that the towers are so expensive compared to other speakers, but the subs are only $500.

I don't get it.

I do think it's cool that they finally made the step though.
 

DJSTEVEZ

DJ Emeritus
Cap, can the Classic L1 Radiators utilize the NEW B-2's? And if so, with the same efficiency as the New Radiators?
 

Cap

Always At Your Service
Tonight, a local group of 20 or so DJs are gathering, as we do once a month for beer, wings, and MNF, and will be physically testing and comparing the B1s & B2s in a hands-on workshop demo using an L1 Model Classic (discontinued), an L1 Model M1 (discontinued), and L1 Model 2 (the current flagship model) using B1s and then B2s. We're going to test everything on the old and the new; presets 57 & 58...do they work with the B2? How does the ( - ), ( norm ) and ( + ) settings on the B2 really react on all three systems? Any mic feedback issues with the B2 especially with preset 58 on the older Classic and Model 1 systems?

We're going to put them through the wringer. Real world test results will be posted; my personal observations as well as testing result comments by other Bose and non-Bose users alike.

Anyone have any tests or things you'd like us to try tonight?
 

Cap

Always At Your Service
DJTunes: Expensive, like beauty, is in the eye (or checkbook) of the beholder. While many cannot afford the system, my business model cannot afford not to.

What is the expression? Ya get what ya pay for for?

Thank goodness the B2 is less cost than a pair of B1s. My wallet is very happy.
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
Play the Bose and compare it apples to oranges (maybe) with an 18. I'm in no way disrespecting the product, just curious. Don't use a Gemini or Pyle sub, if you know what I mean. I know some speakers will keep up with larger ones just because of design & quality.
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
A DJ Magic Mike track should be part of any true bass experiment at some point.

Just don't turn it up loud unless you want to blow it.
 

Cap

Always At Your Service
I don't own nor ever will, an 18". I will however, bring a Mackie 1500m, which I use only twice a year.
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
You are only one of many different Mobile DJs. You mean to say that an 18" (or comparable)sub is not necessary to accurately produce all of the low notes of today's dance music at a dance with 300+ in attendance?

I'll say again I have no disrespect for the BOSE.

I was just wondering if this sub can do the job of a QSC KW181 or whatever. Or come close.

I really like the punch of a 10" for some applications, respectfully.

Can it go
low?

You said it... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty of sound too.

I also believe you could have equal success in your DJ career if the BOSE company, or speakers never even existed. Give yourself more credit.

Will the first 3 bass notes in The Way You Move, by Outcast be accurately reproduced well? The kick in You Shook Me All Night Long? The bass in Jamming, by Bob Marley, or the bass like in a Red Hot Chilli Peppers song. Hotel California? Those songs really come alive.

But who am I, I use Peaveys, I'll shut up now. :)

Thanks for sharing the news, and I'm interested in the test results.

Always a fan Cap.
 

dboomer

Member
I was just wondering if this sub can do the job of a QSC KW181 or whatever. Or come close.

I really like the punch of a 10" for some applications, respectfully.

Can it go
low?
Small diameter speakers can indeed go very low. But there is a trade off at work here.

10" drivers can easily go as low as 18" drivers ... but (generally speaking) they will either not be as loud or they will require much larger amplifiers (and driver power handling) to do it. There's no free lunch.

I also prefer the sound of smaller woofers as compared to larger woofers. Here again, generally speaking, because the weight of the cone is less the speaker can start and stop faster than a driver with a larger, heavier cone. So smaller drivers generally don't suffer from hangover. When you play a "click" into them you hear a "click" and not a "bong".
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
Small diameter speakers can indeed go very low. But there is a trade off at work here.

10" drivers can easily go as low as 18" drivers ... but (generally speaking) they will either not be as loud or they will require much larger amplifiers (and driver power handling) to do it. There's no free lunch.

I also prefer the sound of smaller woofers as compared to larger woofers. Here again, generally speaking, because the weight of the cone is less the speaker can start and stop faster than a driver with a larger, heavier cone. So smaller drivers generally don't suffer from hangover. When you play a "click" into them you hear a "click" and not a "bong".
Four 10 inch subs across the back dash of a car can be unreal. Accompanied by specific drivers playing specific parts of the parameters. Small areas can be so much easier to fill with great sound.

That being said, live music in a smaller room is sooooo sweet.

Thanks for chiming in DB
 

Maverick

Pumping It Up
I guess my main question is what is the advantage of buying these over using two bass bins(we have four, two for each tower)....is there a big difference in the output on these new options or is this just something bose is doing to add to the cash flow?
 
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