Need help finding a song? Read this first!

classactparty

New Member
Over the last 5 or so years, I have seen at least one post per week for someone looking for a particular song. Here are a few tips for searching BEFORE asking for someone to do this work for you.
1. Check Amazon.com, iTunes, or mp3.walmart.com first.
2. If you don't find it on these, search for an artist site or a Wikipedia entry on the artist. Check the discography of the artist to determine if the artist actually recorded the song.
3. If the artist didn't record the song, check the artist & title you were given on YouTube. You may find the song on YouTube and be able to listen to it.
4. If you find the song on YouTube but it is not available commercially, it is likely the song & artist on YouTube is incorrect. Try the song title again on Amazon, iTunes or mp3.walmart and listen to some of the other artists version of that title. You may very well find the song that was listed on YouTube incorrectly.
This happened to me for a wedding recently. The bride wanted Daddy's Little Girl/Butterfly Kisses by Tim McGraw & Faith Hill. After determining these were not recorded by Faith Hill & Tim McGraw (at least not released commercially), I checked the title and found a version on Amazon.com by Jeff Carson & Kippi Brannon. I checked the title as the bride described on YouTube
and listened to it. It was in fact the Jeff Carson & Kippi Brannon version.
It turned out the bride got the song off of Limewire.
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
The misinformation is something that I have run into as well. Same deal!!!
Example: Linda Ronstadt & Lionel Richie, All I Need To Know
That one was just goofy.
If you didn't figure it out in the first 3 seconds you're as dissapointed in yourself as I was when after reading it and double clicking iTunes I stared at my screen and sang outloud the song I needed unconciously then felt a little dumb.
I still can't find a quality source for the best remix of Your Love by Outfield I have ever heard. A friend at a bar put it on a disc for me but the quality stinks, so I have to tweak the EQ when I play it.
I'll give $5 to the dude that can give me the commercial source to get it.
The only distinguishing part of the song I can think of is a part of the song where the background says "Get it, get it, get it, get it" in an echoing fading out sound as you hear these words. The beat is heavy breakbeat sounding.
 

Ken Heath

Super Moderator...da-ta-daaa!!!
Staff member
Yep...preachin' to the choir!

I recall a thread where the bride insisted it was a Frank Sinatra song...EVERYBODY here searched for this song trying to help...then I tracked down when the song was written, Frank had been dead for a while before the song was even penned, very scant chance that he ever recorded it... ;)

The internet has been a mixed blessing to our industry!
 

DJ-JC

New Member
I always send a email with a 15 second (est) clip of any special songs that may be in question for B&G approval. I do this under the pretext that I want to make sure it is the right "version" (not that I know every song, and how it goes and leave it that). I will take the possible hits on the non-special music requests if need be (radio,mix ver etc).
This has saved the B&G and myself a few times. One time they wanted the live version, and once it was the artist they told me , but it turned out it was another artist they really wanted. Both first song disasters being avoided by these clips.
Once they hear the short clip there is no question whatsoever.
Regards,
jc
 

UNDJ

Member
I always send a email with a 15 second (est) clip of any special songs that may be in question for B&G approval. I do this under the pretext that I want to make sure it is the right "version" (not that I know every song, and how it goes and leave it that). I will take the possible hits on the non-special music requests if need be (radio,mix ver etc).
This has saved the B&G and myself a few times. One time they wanted the live version, and once it was the artist they told me , but it turned out it was another artist they really wanted. Both first song disasters being avoided by these clips.
Once they hear the short clip there is no question whatsoever.
Regards,
jc
I do the same thing. 90% of the time the client realizes they were misinformed from Limewire, YouTube, etc. I wish I could charge them by the minute for the extra time I search for these obscure tunes!

Great idea classactparty!
 

Rhythm & I Do's

New Member
Happens all the time here as well.

Just a couple weeks ago had a Bride asking for I Loved Her First by Billy Ray. Now knowing that is a Heartland song I went checking through Billy Ray releases to see if I could find a recording by him of the song, no dice. Did the check on You Tube and found a few vids that have been posted of Miley and Billy Ray with the Heartland version of the song playing. Some of the video's even list song credits to Heartland but the titles of the video's were I Loved Her First - Billy Ray. Checked with the Bride and sure enough she had been searching on You Tube and seen the video's I found.

Same bride also wanted a song that she again had watched on You Tube of an artist performing the song live in concert. Did a bunch of digging and found that the song she wanted had only been released as a bonus track on the Japanese release of an album from 2007! Took some work but was able to get a copy of the Japanese album with the song she wanted.
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
Getting back on track... I think that a lot of clients assume that we are stealing a lot of our music just because a lot of other people are doing it. I subscribe to Jones/TM weekly, and go to iTunes or wherever I have to go to buy my music. Even gave money to T Carter.
I had a client who sent me the link to a youtube video of all of the versions of the songs she wanted played for her wedding ceremony. UGGGH!
She actually gave me a very micro-managed list of (in Theory) every song to play for the whole night along with when to play them. The list was given to me way after the contract was signed, and we had a couple of conversations before she sent this itinerary and she never mentioned it. The list wasn't too bad actually, and had a lot of stuff I play a lot. This wedding & reception turned out to be very successful, and I got to use my creativity too because she didn't have nearly enough songs listed.
Back to the youtube ceremony.
It was all traditional stuff. What she didn't realize is that there are too many renditions of these songs. Wedding song, Kenny G... ok easy enough. But she linked a video of Air on G string, Canon in D, Bridal Chorus, and wedding march.
She said these are the versions of the songs she wants played at the wedding. There were no sources listed on youtube for the songs.
What would you have done?
Anybody, anybody...
 

Steve Sharp

Active Member
Back to the youtube ceremony.
It was all traditional stuff. What she didn't realize is that there are too many renditions of these songs. Wedding song, Kenny G... ok easy enough. But she linked a video of Air on G string, Canon in D, Bridal Chorus, and wedding march.
She said these are the versions of the songs she wants played at the wedding. There were no sources listed on youtube for the songs.
What would you have done?
Anybody, anybody...

Considering it's a total of four songs, and for a ceremony, and not during dancing where lack of fidelity will more easily be noticed, I'd probably snipe the audio from the youtube links, because even though it's a PITA, it's still probably less time-consuming than the alternatives.
 
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Steve Sharp

Active Member
I still can't find a quality source for the best remix of Your Love by Outfield I have ever heard. A friend at a bar put it on a disc for me but the quality stinks, so I have to tweak the EQ when I play it.
I'll give $5 to the dude that can give me the commercial source to get it.
The only distinguishing part of the song I can think of is a part of the song where the background says "Get it, get it, get it, get it" in an echoing fading out sound as you hear these words. The beat is heavy breakbeat sounding.

http://www.discogs.com/DJ-X-Use-Your-Luv/master/153513

It's D.J. X, and the "get it" is a sample from Instant Funk "I Got My Mind Made Up", and the rest is breakbeat, and MAJOR sampling from The Outfield, even though the artist credit is D.J. X. There are copies for sale in the Discogs marketplace, unfortunately they're all on vinyl records. I'm going to dig around, I think I have the cd single on this one.. somewhere.
 

MonkeySan

Jockey of Discs
http://www.discogs.com/DJ-X-Use-Your-Luv/master/153513

It's D.J. X, and the "get it" is a sample from Instant Funk "I Got My Mind Made Up", and the rest is breakbeat, and MAJOR sampling from The Outfield, even though the artist credit is D.J. X. There are copies for sale in the Discogs marketplace, unfortunately they're all on vinyl records. I'm going to dig around, I think I have the cd single on this one.. somewhere.
FYI - It's available on Itunes. I sometimes throw the Instrumental into a mix.
 

djgulfcoast

Mobile DJ Alabama
The YouTube thing is a pain. I had a wedding a few weeks ago with several classical songs that were picked from Youtube. No orchestra mentioned. After selecting several similar pieces, the bride still wanted to use the YouT version. The quality was below par. Cleaned up eq & volume normalization, no one noticed, and the bride was very happy. It goes back to the saying "give the client what they want". I once had to use a sound clip of a high school fight song removed from a VHS tape, once again the crowed roared with joy. So whadda ya do, gotta go with the flow.

And everyone lived happily ever after. :multi:
 

DjDennis

Old Standing Member
And this is why I have in my Contracts for All to read


"ALL MUSIC IS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY"

Some djs wont like it but hey if he or she dont then not my problem

I have used it for the last 30x years and never had an issue
maybe these djs have no idea what they are doing and how to explain to clients that not every song they hear is really avavilable 100% - especially when the client is told the wrong name and artist and has no idea if its the correct song title in the first place (that includes them downloading that was named wrong)

So have a nice day
 

Ausumm

Active Member
I have a great source for music information,
that I use when a client requests a song I am not familiar with,
or when I have doubts about the artist who actually recorded the song.

www.allmusic.com

You can search by artist, or song title...
 

Ken Heath

Super Moderator...da-ta-daaa!!!
Staff member
A few years ago we had a thread here wherein a DJ was searching for a song that a bride absolutely insisted was by Sinatra, it wasn't until I provided him with irrefutable proof that the song was written AFTER Sinatra's death that he could convince her that Frank never recorded it regardless of what she found on youtube! :p
 
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