Naming and Organizing Light Cues...

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larry62

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So, does anyone have any suggestions for how to name and organize DMX-based llight cues?

I use an Elation SD-1, which is a HW controller that has a short row of text to name cues, scenes, etc. With some controllers, there isn't even that.

I can where a series of cues for an entrance or special dance would be easy to keep track of, but for general dance cues, I don't know how to name them such that I can remember them.

As an example, with just 4 LED strips, there could be many combinations of chases on a single strip, much less how all 4 interact. e.g. If I had 2 of 8 red cells chasing through a blue background, chasing through 2 LED strips on house left towards center, with the house right pair doing a mirror image, that would be just one case. And names like 'blue smurf' or 'happy green joy' aren't going to help much....

How do you guys keep tack of this? I can remember lots of songs, but don't have a good approach for light cues.

thx.

-larry-
 

dj_kevin_f

Go Big or Go Home
I name my preset and cues very specifically. For instance

Color Scroll Fast, Med, Slow
Color Wave Fast, Med, Slow
Dash Bounce
Dots Bounce
Dash Spin Bounce
Big X High
Big X Low
XX High
XX Low
X Scan Fast, Med, Slow
ect...
 

larry62

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Hmmm. I was hoping for a few more suggestions. Maybe my approach is off. I was thinking that along the same lines as never playing the same track twice at a dancing event, and ideally not playing more than one track by any one artist at each event, that I'd want different looks for each song during the dancing. Looking back at a couple of wedding play lists, that's around 40 - 50 songs. I'm not sure how I can program and identify that many unique lighting looks, such that I can quickly remember them and match a look to each song. Is that more than I'd need? Is there a simpler approach?

thx.

-larry-
 

dj_kevin_f

Go Big or Go Home
This where a controller with cue stacks is perfect.

If you have 20 of each.
Movement Chases
Color Chases
Intensity Chases
Color Combinations
FX Presets

You could mix and match till you heart is content. It would be very easy to come up with 50 unique looks.
 

djstevieray

Somewhere On Hoth
I was just going to say the same thing as Kevin. I have different movement cues for my heads, with different colo/gobo combination cues on a seperate layer, Then my washes have their own layer, and I can mix them how I want to create custom scenes on the fly.
 

hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
I program my controller for genres.. with a couple misc types..
IE: Rock & roll, Dance, country, & Ballad..
For me: 'Rock & Roll 1&2' predominately uses the scanners, with lots of fast & large movements, 'Country' predominately uses just the pars (color changers) with very simple chases, 'Ballad' is just the mirrorball pars with slow movements of the scanners, and 'Dance' pretty much runs everything but color coordinated.
 

dj_kevin_f

Go Big or Go Home
It also sounds like you may be over thinking all of this. If you have a special cue then you should store it in a way that is easily accessible.

For instance if i am building a punt page i will always do things the same way. Colors in one fader, poitions on another fader, intensity chases, etc... If i have a cue or cue list that is special then i put that on another fader or button for easy recall.

As a dj everything should be at your fingertips. Easy and simple will go a long way.
 

CMB

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My terminology might be a little off here...BUT...I used to use the Martin Freekie. I made a bank of shows that were fast, and a bank of shows that were slow. On the freekie that was access to 12 shows on each bank. If I was about to play a slow song...I would switch to Slow Bank and pick a show or 2 until it was time to pick it back up...then I'd switch to the Fast Bank and do the same thing.

Another way would be to program uptempo shows on odd numbered buttons, and slow tempo shows on even numbers. Or you could color code the buttons and program accordingly. On my lumidesk computer screen I color colde fast triggers RED and slow triggers BLUE. You just gotta figure out how you want to trigger the shows...then you can organize them.
 

larry62

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Thanks, folks.

This helps quite a bit. It looks like I wasn't too far off track after all. I had just gotten bogged down. I had started to organize my washes, chases, etc., for my LED strips, along with 'specials' like mirror ball, etc., and I can expand that for the other instruments.

-larry-
 
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