Message to the Newbies (those with less then 100 posts)

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Mike Zaremba

Master beer drinker
You are so correct, I might be new to the forums here, however I am not new to the industry. I became discouraged with another DJ forum and have decided to move in a new direction. I'm here to network not to have professionals take cheap shots at each other.
 

bill_smith

MobileBeat Moderator
Staff member
Welcome sir. I hope that more of the cheapshot taking and bashing we have experienced here at PRODJ is in our past rather than in our future.
 

Ken Heath

Super Moderator...da-ta-daaa!!!
Staff member
DJSTEVEZ said:
...DENIAL...

Don't
Even
Know
I'm
Lying

When you introduce an acronym, shouldn't the letters of the word break down to mean something???

:wink:

"D-E-N-I-A-L"
does not correlate to "D-E-K-I-L", as in your example.

Perhaps something along these lines...

DJ
Expert,
Nevermind
I
Am
Lying

...would be more accurate?

:wink:
 

hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
Goodknightdj said:
19) The only DJ company in your market that matters is yours. Don't gauge your price on the other guy set your price based on your expenses and profit desired.
.

Many DJ's do not even know what their actual expenses are..
(If someone says "my only expenses are my music, as my equipment is all paid for", then they have no clue)
If the DJ DOES NOT know what his/her BUSINESS expenses are... then ANY talk of price or profit is meaningless..

The majority of our PRICE threads derail because of this..
 

BBBuffalo

Active Member
Welcome Mike,

Let's see you would be number ? in the exodus from the other forum?

I think eventually it will just be the moderators and 1 joqer
 

Goodknightdj

Word of Web (WOW) DJ
DJ Ron Auger said:
I think Mike would be number 3 from that forum of Disc Jockeys. Joe and myself are 1 & 2 that I know of. :lol:

Would that site be about DJing in America or is more along the lines of DJs Chatting?
 

Shelley

New Member
23) Be factual. Don't repeat what was repeated to you. Don't play telephone. Things get distorted this way.

24) Think for yourself. Don't let anyone elses opinion of anyone else make the decision for you. Most of the time those people are wrong or just don't want to take the time to understand what they have a bad opinion of.

25) Be yourself.

26) Be honest. Honesty really is the best policy. There is no reason to lie to make yourself sound better. We're all here to learn and grow. You can't learn and grow if the seeds you plant are planted in a bed of lies.

27) Understand that text leaves a lot to be desired. If you find you are having a problem with someone, call them instead of messaging. Text doesn't convey tone of voice. Text is impersonal that way. A lot of problems on this board could be avoided if people just picked up a phone.
 

Tyrone Blue

Member
Asking advise...

Some new member signs up and has a question that goes something like this: "I was looking at XXX brand speaker or amp or mixer"... or whatever, "and I was wondering if I should buy it? It's the cheapest thing I could find and I'd like to get advise on what you folks would recommend".

After everyone suggests the right and wrong gear to buy and why, the newbie buys the gear that he asked about in the first place. Experience doesn't count for much sometimes.
 

BBBuffalo

Active Member
DJ Ron Auger said:
I think Mike would be number 3 from that forum of Disc Jockeys. Joe and myself are 1 & 2 that I know of. :lol:
No, I wasn't talking about DJA where you and Joe followed another out. (so actually you were more like 2 & 3)

Hopefully Mike will be joining us there soon.

I was referring to another place.
 

hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
In reference to the Full Time VS Part Time..

Heres the thing.. (and keep in mind I am a part time DJ)

Why are part time DJ's sometimes equated (either accidentally or on purpose) with hobbyists?

simply because most are..

Where Full time DJ's HAVE TOO run things like a business..

Does a full time dj have insurance & backup equipment & sales training & knows their expenses VS profit?? and etc etc etc etc etc..
Probably! simply because they have too!! their livelyhood depends on them doing things right.

Does have part time DJ have the same things??
maybe... some do... some don't..

and thats the catch... thats the issue...

Its no different then the "Professional" VS "Amateur"
debate..
Its really tough to call a DJ whos only income is DJing an amateur..

Sooo...
if YOU are a part-timer, and you feel that you may have been insulted by a full-timer..
take a moment... and think about it..

If you ever lost your good name... would you miss a house payment? (or have to quit DJing)
Do you have Insurance and backup equipment & use contracts?
Do you have 'office' expenses?
Is at least one of your phones in your company name and paid for by the company?

If you said 'NO' to ANY one of these you MAY be a hobbyist..
Get over it..

If you said 'YES' to most of these... being called a hobbyist doesnt bother you.. why?... bacause YOU know the truth! and to be honest, it also bugs you when the TRUE hobbyists try and say they are as good as you..
 

Bill_Goode

Mobile Beat Moderator
Staff member
#24) The new folks should not be afraid to ask questions and offer answers. Some of the new folks here have a much better grasp on things and are very helpful as opposed to some of the "old-timers" who are set in their ways and would rather not change or contribute in a positive manner!

Ask away, there are those of use that do not mind, and are glad to answer all of your questions!

Things change, technologies change, techniques change. The question I answered in 2003 may need to be updated for 2008 and may not be the correct answer in 2009. A great example of that is, "What kind of wireless mic should I get?" Asking that question three years ago would have had folks recommending EV, Shure, or AT UHF band mics. That same question today is now answered with a wait and see what happens with the new gov't regs on bandwith and the UHF mic you want might not be the best choice. Next year, it may be a frequency agile VHF unit!

As for having a thick skin and other noise and chatter that may show up from time to time, those that treat this board as a professional board and do not mind their mother reading it or seeing it as a cover article in USA Today have nothing to fear and are not the ones that cause heated arguments that involve some behind-the-scenes work from the mod team.

Those that say you need a thick skin are ones that may be likely to stir the pot and plunge a thread into a heated debate that helps no one, save their own ego.

Are you a newbie?

Post away! :D

If you think the mods are restrictive here, you should look at www.radio-info.com and see how much the mod team locks thread down over there, then come back here and have a look!
 

hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
When you do ask a question.. try and be a little more specific (if you want answers).

IE: asking: "which amp should I get?" is a tough one to answer if we don't know what kind of speakers you have and what you are attempting to do..
 

Chris Wagner

School Dance Moderator
Nice thread!

One of the things I often find plagues DJs is failure to have a business plan. Many people get into the industry because they believe they can have fun, like to play with equipment, or like music (or all of those). Further, be able to make a little coin at it.

And, if that's all it is to, then call a spade a spade.

But, if you are truly trying to make this some sort of career or a truly profitable endeavor... even part time (not just beer money or whatever), take the time to create a business plan or ask here how to do one and things to consider.

So many people enter the DJ industry hoping to make some cash but don't price themselves correctly to sustain the business and make it worthwhile. A business plan helps to outline what you want to set out to do and also factors in what you should be charging to make what you want to make. (Some people are happy making $10k on their business... others want to live in a gated community... you need to decide how your DJ business or hobby is going to fit in to your lifestyle.)

Lastly, welcome to new posters! We're glad to have you!
 

Goodknightdj

Word of Web (WOW) DJ
Don't use the 800 outbound; that is, if your 800 service lets you make calls through the service, don't use that feature.

This was a hard lesson for me and almost caused me to toss in the towel after a fairly sucessful second run since 2001.

I was using the portion of the 800 service that lets me make outbound calls as a way to call leads. I figured that since I am paying for this service I might as well use it. People were not answering and were not returning calls.

Then I had one occasion where I got a connection and then a disconnect. I thought that maybe the person had VOIP that was having difficulty with a land line so I used the cell phone and the bride-to-be picked up, we chatted, and I landed the interview. I've been using the cell phone since.

It seems that when people see an 800 number on caller ID they tend to let it go to voice mail. It also seems that they delete the messages from 800 numbers without even listening to them.
 

Cerebro

New Member
Goodknightdj said:
19) The only DJ company in your market that matters is yours. Don't gauge your price on the other guy set your price based on your expenses and profit desired.

19b.) Do not look at any company in your market and try to be like them. I think this is image suicide, because then you have a DJs looking alike, sounding the same, and offering similar services. You are your own competition and this should help you spark that creative spirit that will make clients think you are unique. By you being your own competition I mean that you are in control of your success not your competition. Weddings are a luxury item and it is very easy to get above average contracts.
 
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