Local DJ Associations, worth it?

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hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
While I am throwing out controversial subjects, might as well start another one ;-)

DJ associations.. Should more DJ's join them, or start a local branch?

I know there are bad sides to associations, I can't even argue that the "value" (price VS benefit) is always there for everybody..

BUT
kinda recently it does seem that in the long run, a DJ association can help raise the prices in an area.

I mention this because there are a lot of intangible benefits to being part of a DJ association, but a lot of times it comes down to people asking "show me the money"..
Well, My answer is now, hang around long enough and you will see a "tangible" benefit.. :)

just sayin..
there are things a group of like minded people can accomplish, that would be a lot tougher to do as individuals.
 

NickyB

Gear and Equipment Moderator
Local associations can be much more beneficial than national ones. We started one here in the Baltimore, MD area in 1997 and have had tremendous success. When started we had 17 members which is now up to 42. The success is due to member's willingness to participate in the program p[rocess. Every month we have a keynote speaker, mostly whom are members, but we now bring in outside expertise for hire. I am proud to say I've done more than my share of presentations, sharing ideas especially when it comes to troubleshooting gear, video editing, networking, faster gear setups and tear downs, hands on DMX light programming etal.

We've done actual faux weddings. mitzvahs, line dance instructions and a lot more. The success is based on the members willingness to leave the egos at the door and actually share useful real world information and not BS.
 

CMB

Active Member
The local stuff is the best. We had a strong local group in DFW for a long time. Then the ADJA came to town and it all got screwed up. Now there is hardly a group. I was a member under the ADJA for a year. For me it was a 2 hr drive one way, and it wasn't worth it.
 

Bill_Goode

Mobile Beat Moderator
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I can only speak to my experience...

If you had asked me up until 2004, I would have insisted giving it a try.

If you ask me today, I would say to keep your money and look at the chambers of commerce in your area or any of the "wider net" associations that put you in the same room with people who you can work with and potentially turn into clients.

Your results may be completely different, but that is my personal recommendation based on the sum total of specific personal experiences going back a lot of years.

Thanks!!
 
National Association or not - It all depends on the participation at the local level. I belong to the ADJA, but not because of some benefit I get at the national level, but because our local chapter is great. Yes, we would love to have more members, and we will get there, but in the meantime, the idea sharing and networking is why I belong.
 

bill_smith

MobileBeat Moderator
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http://www.raleighweddingdj.com

The key is to find likeminded members interested in bringing a great service and being open about referrals.

no fees, no kickbacks, no dues. Just honest open "hey are you open?" Great, here's a lead, I'm booked!

50% of my revenue last year came from referrals.
 

maestro

Well-Known Member
Hippy are you with the CDJA or the CPDJA? I am with the latter. It allows me to maintain a slightly more professional image by being listed on their website and kind of assures prospective clients that I am not some fly by night. It also allows me to purchase liability insurance at a discounted rate that my home insurance broker cannot touch, he even advised me to buy it! I get a good deal on my AVLA licence through them as well. Unfortunately, the CPDJA is the smaller of the two as far as west coast members go which kind of blows. I am hopeful that our membership will grow and have even offered to be the BC rep. Another cool thing is that their website has a lot of helpful / explanatory wedding related / party planning articles on it like explaining the SOCAN fees tacked on by venues that the client always wants us to pay. :scrambleup:
 

Chuck Amstone

Active Member
I wish our local Tampa market was thriving with members and ideas....however the same 5 board memembers are just about the only ones in attendance. Too big the big successful multi-ops couldn't step up and take charge or even some new young blood. I won't renew.
 

hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
Hippy are you with the CDJA or the CPDJA?
No, I am a member of the Alberta Association of Mobile Entertainers
www.aame.ab.ca

Primarily consists of Edmonton members, but we do have a small scattering in other cities.
Since I am now completely digital, and my music sources are xtendamix.com and Itunes, I have ceased to give a frack about the AVLA licence ;-)
 

maestro

Well-Known Member
Hip, if you are playing from a hard-drive and not the original CD's, legally you do require an AVLA licence; legally. Yes, I know there is absolutely NO policing of that in the west but I still carry one. Does you association offer liability insurance?
 

hippydog

wuz here when it was Red.
Hip, if you are playing from a hard-drive and not the original CD's, legally you do require an AVLA licence; legally.
If you want to get into it we can.. :)
but for now you just have to trust me on the fact I did a lot of research related to the AVLA and the Canadian Copywrite law..
What I stated was a FACT. (and confirmed by the AVLA itself)


Yes, I know there is absolutely NO policing of that in the west but I still carry one.
I am not against the AVLA, many people still need one, Myself, even though I was primarily playing videos 4? years ago, i still bought one except for this year.. (another long story)

Does you association offer liability insurance?
yes it does.. I think its the same place the CPDJA gets theirs.. (unless they recently changed it)
www.aame.ab.ca
 

Chuck Amstone

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Something I've observed over the past 15 years or so is that in the Tampa Bay market.....there are the same guys who have been members and board members by default because no on else wants to step up. Amazing since there are probably 500 or so DJs. Everyone has an excuse. I can't put my finger on it other than they don't care. Which after 15 years of the same thing...I don't care anymore either.
 
My short answer to your question is yes and no. I have extensive experience with local associations, and could go on for hours on this topic. I won't.

John
 

Ausumm

Active Member
I am also with Bill Goode.
I don't feel a bunch of people who are in the same business can offer me anything I cannot get on my own.
In fact, a forum like this probably has more value, and it's free!
I'm sure others may have a different opinion.
I, too, would rather join a local Chamber.
 
I also served 5 years on the board of The Greater South Buffalo Chamber of Commerce (2 of the 5 years as Vice Chair and every year on committees). Chambers vary from one extreme to another (Just like local associations). Test the waters, and ask general members their experiences with the local Chamber. Some Chambers can be extremely political, while many are more pro business, and look out for the interest of the business community. In short, do your homework!

John
 
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