Jebus. Can't a man get a break?

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waasta

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Damn straight, Z.

Actually, Nutz, you and me aren't all that different. This is a picture of one of my cars in college. I painted it terribly and lovingly referred to it as "the flamer". Note the license plate. One of my favorites I've ever had, I must say.

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Anyone with the balls to drive this POS around with that plate likes attention. So yeah, you're right. I'm a attention-loving whore. But at least I'm a FUN attention-loving whore. Life must suck being a Debbie-downer.
 
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Bob Dietrich

Active Member
And one more thing.

What's with the stuffy attitude from certain members (read: Nutz & Dietrich) around here? Perhaps y'all should get a desk job.

I know there's no set job description, but aren't we, as DJs, supposed to be fun? Aren't we supposed to be entertainers? Aren't we used to being the MCs? Don't we want people to pay attention to us?




Life
should be fun.
Life is fun! And stuffy? Nope, just telling it the way it is...perhaps you don't see the fun in that... :)

All done for the day...simply did the grand intro on another DJ's system and his event...$350 for 5 minutes...now we're talkin' real fun!
 
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DJBusyB

Active Member
I will be totally honest in saying that is something I've very much considered. Most receptions here are 5 hours, and if I shortened my time to 4 I can very much see people saying "well, we don't actually need music during the cocktail hour" rather than pay the extra hour. It happens quite a bit now when they want to have a 6 hour reception. I have to be there anyway, which blows if I'm not getting paid for it and I've got to listen to some Muzak garbage. Maybe the solution would be to lower my extra hour rate to $50 from $75 but that would just make my 5 hour rate $525. Is it worth it? I dunno.
And...once again, I point out that the supposed DJ industry has dug themselves into their own hole by continually quoting "by the hour". Ever since I went to "by the event" pricing over 10 years ago, it has been so much easier. Clients don't berate me to drop money from the fee, nor do they have to bring extra cash for a longer party.

I've done weddings where the performance time was about 3 hours with 47 guests, yet the fee was just the same as a wedding that involved 6 hours performance and 200 guests. At $2000, it all balances out whether I am there for a cocktail hour and a longer party, or if they are ready to depart after 3 hours. As a matter of fact, I had a client who, in the middle of a rocking party, said "ok, we are ready for our grand exit", 3 hours into the performance start time.

As I've told prospects, I often get thrown out of venues, because my contract is open-ended. I'm done when the party is over. Venues still book rooms "by the hour" , and I understand THEIR reasoning, because of staff, but why do DJs still book "by the hour"?

Brian
 

Mark Evans

Mobile Beat Moderator
Staff member
I did like Brian B did years ago as well. Even before coming to this site I went to per event instead of per hour. I hated arguing with a client over $5.00 :) Byron take baby steps. I know you tried a year ago and that didn't work but why didn't it work? If you go up $25 an event I don't think to many of your clients will notice that. $525 or $495 won't make or break a brides budget. Another big thing is study price points. Why do they advertise $999.99 and not say a thousand. In a customers mind 999 is not really 1000. All retailers do it and they have been in business for a lot longer than us. For a test try 599 price point for weddings. You have a ton booked this year so if it don't work go back down.....Oh enjoy my FB posts for you :)
 

Corey Rock

Nubsauce Dancer
Why does it truly matter what he charges? I've made profit from $375 wedding and I've made profit from $1450 wedding. Bill, you still write eloquently...job well done. I have a solution to these pricing wars, stop telling other DJs what you charge. Just let them know you make enough money to cover your bills and your retirement looks good.
 

Scott Hanna

Member
I get this constantly from you guys, and from my other DJ, and from my wife, but look what a client emailed me today (the part in question is bold and underlined, in case you miss it):

Hi Byron,

Wedding date is getting closer! I'm starting to get all the final things together and the website appears to show you raised your prices (good for you!) so I can't remember what the price was when I signed with you, I know we put 150 down....could you tell me the remainder?! Thank you!!

Even my clients. E-ven my clients. Sigh.

I actually don't know what she was talking about concerning price increases as I haven't bumped them in a couple years, but I thought some of you might enjoy this.

Screw this, I'm going to $900.

Oh, who am I kidding.

Byron,
I think some people are starting to think you LIKE talking about money because you keep bringing it up.

It's kind of like Kim Kardashian complaining that the media won't stop hounding her about her wedding....well, then don't put it on TV and keep talking about it.

Everyone should run their business the way they want, and having fun is ALWAYS a good idea.

Nothing wrong with a debate as long as it doesn't get ugly.

But you really can't be shocked when people respond to threads that you start about money...and they are talking about money.
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
People... logical, sane, wise, well meaning people.

Next time you see these threads please advise the charismatic, fun loving, succesful O.P. that no matter what he does with his biz he'll never be as good as you in bed, and he'll never be as sexy as you in a speedo.

This is the spirit I keep, and Bill is my reality check.

Now get your finger out of your nose and learn to mix. :p
 

waasta

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Roger-

I totally take offense to the "better in bed" part. I know how to work my 5 inches better than most men with 5 inches. You've got to compensate when mother nature screwed you. So you either buy a big truck or you figure out how to solve the problem. I chose both. And considering very few people will fess up to only being 5 inches I will crown myself king of the 5 inchers.

Mark-

I'm $475 exactly because of the .99 phenomenon. That leading 4 (as opposed to 5) is my .99.

Corey-

Fist bump. Thank you.

Scott-

I'm not shocked. I'm having fun. Well, until Bill deletes my picture of the sexiest fat man I've ever seen. Then I'm sad.

Busy-

I've considered that. But why fix it if it ain't broke?
 

digitalphantoms

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Byron,
That car is classic man... I love it... the plate is classic too... I truly can relate... I am guessing you are an 80's child like myself...In High School originally, I had a Pontiac sunfire convertible (I thought I was the coolest kid with the coolest car for a while), it was then stolen and destroyed... (probably about the best thing that could of happened for my ego). Because I had only liability insurance on it, it was gone..... and with a high school salary (even though I was already DJ'ing and working a full time job) I was done in terms of being able to afford another "cool kid car"... SOOOO, I went down and found the car on the corner of the local lot that was "the budget special" No joke... it said it on the windshield... Dodge Omni for those of you wondering... Dealership cleaned it up, (of course cleaning the paint off the windshield that said "budget special") and sold it to me for $1,250...

Others,
After driving that thing to school with my head down and parking at the back of the lot fearing no one would see me, I realized that I needed to say screw it, and live life and have fun... quit worrying about everyone else and worry about me... I went down and bought all of the sticky letters a la carte that I needed to put "budget special" back on the windshield, went down to the secretary of state, changed my license plate to "lil budget" and had some of the most fun moments of my life thus far during the time owning that car... and truly I think it demanded more respect that trying to have the coolest car in high school...

If this thread was located anywhere different than "general conversation" I might see the point to getting all fired up if my point was challenged... but stepping back and looking at the big picture, my expectation of something posted in the general conversation box is automatically set to zero before I even open it even if it it is a thread with Byron in it..

I also want to make one more point... for those of you that think that you are going to have an "open" type forum and expect that it will be free from drama, think again... but that is not my point... Even on a screened board (full time DJ for example) where everyone is supposed to be "professional full time DJ's" you have drama... Why is it so hard to just ignore it if its something that bothers you?

My wife holds two masters, and she works in an office with people alike. An office full of doctors, an office of where things are supposed to be very professional and serious are not. Based upon what she has told me over the years of all of the different offices and people she has worked with and around, I call it an "adult playground". You simply cannot work in a place where people don't try to stir up things and cause drama... It's just gonna happen.. I say "focus on what you can control". And if you can't say something positive, don't say anything at all...
 

waasta

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my expectation of something posted in the general conversation box is automatically set to zero before I even open it even if it it is a thread with Byron in it..
HEY! What are you trying to say? ;)

Cool story about the car, man. When life gives you lemons (or a crappy car) make someone laugh. That's what I always say.

A Sunfire convertible--that brings me back!! We must be close in age--I've had 4 Ford Probes, (2 in high school) and every one of them I thought was cool. LOL

That one in the picture was an 87 Buick Skyhawk I picked up for $1500 in '02. It was an old man's car and had like 60k miles. It was super clean, but super-boring. I put a monster stereo in it and then after my brother got rear ended in it I decided to "spruce" it up. I went to a junkyard and replaced the trunk and taillights from a Pontiac (all parts were interchangable in the 80's). The new trunk lid had a third brake light on it, and it already had one in the back window so I had double third brake lights which got me thinking, and it led to what you see in the picture. I'm a terrible artist and my "flames" ended up looking like waves. But whatever. It made people laugh.

We used it for photo shoots as well (that's me, albeit a bit skinnier):

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And the flamer, in all her glory!

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digitalphantoms

New Member
Bryon,
Not a shot at you... lol...

I was born in 1980..

That "photoshoot" is hilarious, I have to share that with some friends if ya don't mind...

Here I fixed my original comment: lol..
my expectation of something posted in the general conversation box is automatically set to zero before I even open it even if it it is a thread POSTED BY ANYONE...
 

waasta

Account Closed
Bryon,
Not a shot at you... lol...

I was born in 1980..

That "photoshoot" is hilarious, I have to share that with some friends if ya don't mind...

Here I fixed my original comment: lol..
my expectation of something posted in the general conversation box is automatically set to zero before I even open it even if it it is a thread POSTED BY ANYONE...
Share away! And I was born in 1980 too! It's like we're brothers from another mother, lol.

And you didn't have to fix that, I thought it was a pretty funny statement. And I'm sure many here actually think the same thing. :D
 

djtunes

Checking Reality
In picture #2 of the car, with the gloomy looking day and no leaves on the trees I'm thinking it looks pretty cold outside. I don't miss living in Indiana, and am reminded of why every time I see pictures from that part of the country.
 

waasta

Account Closed
Roger-

I don't remember when that was taken, but yeah, I would assume it was cold. ;) I don't mind the cold, honestly. It's nice to have actual seasons.

Jason-

LOL! I got lucky, honestly. I can tell you that I have a TON of Chris, Mark and Jason friends my age. My name, Byron Emerson Gunter, is a combination of my father's middle name (Byron) and my grandfather (Emerson). We did something similar when naming my daughter. We took my middle name and added another M (to make it more girly, and we found out that's how my grandfather's name was originally spelled in their family bible) and my wife's middle name to get Emmerson Marie Gunter.
 

DJSTEVEZ

DJ Emeritus
This is a picture of one of my cars in college. I painted it terribly and lovingly referred to it as "the flamer". Note the license plate. One of my favorites I've ever had, I must say.Anyone with the balls to drive this POS around with that plate likes attention. So yeah, you're right. I'm a attention-loving whore. But at least I'm a FUN attention-loving whore. Life must suck being a Debbie-downer.
 
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