DJsLastMinute.com Bid Amounts

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Goodknightdj

Word of Web (WOW) DJ
I agree with Ron.

Example...

I heard that a DJ from the association I just left bid $400 for a four hour birthday party. This is a DJ that said he would never DJ a four hour event for under $600. The irony of it was that he was underbid by another DJ in that very same association at $350.

I guess the economy has everybody reaching for what ever they can get.
 

djrox

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BBBuffalo said:
We simply disagree on who sets our prices as an industry.

You think it's the public, I think it's the DJs.
Here's my third option: I set my rates based on my own formula, which would not likely fit other providers' calculations.

What other DJs charge is a very, very minor ingredient in the mix. Can't be ignore but won't be given much weight. YMMV.
 

DJ Ron Auger

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Rox,
Now that makes sense. Scares me a bit but makes sense. :wink:

I have my prices set but I will consider different options i.e. less time, throw in a few lights, etc.

I do jobs as little as $75. What those jobs are doesn't really matter but I do them. I also price out as much as $1400 to start. One price does not fit all.
 

BBBuffalo

Active Member
DJ Ron Auger said:
We can all think what we want. Facts are facts plain and simple. There are DJ's of every price range just as there are customers who will hire on price. That is a fact.

If everyone placed themselves at that magical figure of $1200 to start then many people would look elsewhere for other options. That's a fact with any consumer. There will always be DJ's who will take those lower priced jobs. That to is fact.
I agree completely

DJ Ron Auger said:
The only reason for trying to entice DJ's to raise their rates and seek higher prices is so the more expensive and higher quality DJ's can raise theirs. Yet another fact.
Not a FACT, but also a very good thing for all involved.

DJ Ron Auger said:
Hey, don't get me wrong I wish they would. Then I can certainly raise my rates. But the simple fact is not every DJ is worth $1200, not in today's economy.
I sort of agree here.

However if even the lowest priced DJs were $1200, they'd either have to step up their game or get out of the business.

And the $1200 figure is over a decade old. Start thinking of $2000 or $3000 as a minimum.

(as the Fantastic 4 guy said...Flame ON)
 

DJ Ron Auger

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DJ Ron Auger wrote:
The only reason for trying to entice DJ's to raise their rates and seek higher prices is so the more expensive and higher quality DJ's can raise theirs. Yet another fact.
Not a FACT, but also a very good thing for all involved.
Then why do you want DJ's to raise their rates? Why would someone who is on the higher end of the scale want the little guys to raise their rates?

However if even the lowest priced DJs were $1200, they'd either have to step up their game or get out of the business.
"Even if" is a fantasy term. Something you'd like to see but never will.

And the $1200 figure is over a decade old. Start thinking of $2000 or $3000 as a minimum.
You mean Mark hasn't come up with a new worth tour yet. He must need some more money. :roll: What, did you think I was going to let that one slide?
 

BBBuffalo

Active Member
Ron, you said "the ONLY reason..." that's what I was saying wasn't a fact.

Making it easier for all is ONE of the reasons.

Another reason is that I would like for more DJs to make more money doing what they love. Wouldn't you like for others to make more money?

Another reason is that I would like for our industry to be taken more seriously. Wouldn't you like for this industry to be taken more seriously?
 

DJ Ron Auger

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BBBuffalo said:
Ron, you said "the ONLY reason..." that's what I was saying wasn't a fact.

Making it easier for all is ONE of the reasons.

Another reason is that I would like for more DJs to make more money doing what they love. Wouldn't you like for others to make more money?

Another reason is that I would like for our industry to be taken more seriously. Wouldn't you like for this industry to be taken more seriously?
OK, poor choice of words on the first one. I'll change that to "the first and foremost important reason".

I'd like more DJ's to make more money as well but if they aren't willing to help themselves first I am not going to do it for them.

I can't speak for you or anyone else in this industry but I am taken seriously. For those who matter and those who care they take me very seriously. That is a reputation I built on my own without any help from anyone. That doesn't mean certain people don't need assistance, after all that's why we have one of the fastest growing non associated DJ groups in the area.

So if you are not being taken seriously I feel bad. Let me know what I can do to help since the other methods don't seem to be working much.

Does anyone else want to jump in and play for awhile? :D
 

Djjoeeb

Entertainment Director/DJ
Well,

Not sure this is gonna change anyone's mind - But I just booked my first event through this service this morning. A 4-hr block party that filled a hole in my schedule (A Sweet 16 had cancelled on me b/c the BD girl wanted to "Rent more machines" - whatever that's supposed to mean - So they won't be having a DJ, just 'machines'.... :roll: ) -

So the paid listing I have just paid for itself and then some.

Thanks Mike! :)

Regards,

Joe
 

bill_smith

MobileBeat Moderator
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Neal, on this website, DJ's can place their floor rate in their profile...so that they only get the bids that match their floor. So the Dj's DO set the rate.

Why not join up, set your celing for 3 grand, since that's what you apparently get on a frequent basis for pool parties, and see what happens?

The worst possible thing that will happen is that a flood of interested clients will beat down your door to get a 3k Dj.

Using your own logic, you've nothing to lose and everything to gain by setting your rate on this website, and getting only those niche clients that will pay your 3k fee.
 

Shelley

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DJ Ron Auger said:
Then why do you want DJ's to raise their rates? Why would someone who is on the higher end of the scale want the little guys to raise their rates?

Because everyone should be able to make enough money in their chosen profession to support their family. Everyone! Not just those of us with the balls to try.

Plus, we should be able to make enough to afford health insurance for our entire family, and be able to take our kids to Disneyland. Not to mention retire comfortably.

Why is this wrong Ron? Why is is wrong to want to help people? Why is it wrong to show people that what they do every weekend has value? Why is it wrong to tell them that being away from their families should be worth more than what they make? Why is it wrong for us to want to be recognized as a legitimate part of the music industry?

I think the DJ industry is one of the only industries in the world where you actually hear people saying "I don't want to make more money". Somehow I can't hear Steve Jobs or Bill Gates saying they felt like they were ripping off their customers by charging what they charged. But the difference there is computers are a product. Talent isn't. Computers are tangible. Talent isn't.

Know what I think Ron? I think you might be scared. I think you are scared to admit that you see our point. I think you have gone so far down the road you're on that you can't turn back without losing face. If you acknowledge that we might be right you'd have to do what Tom had the guts to do. I don't think you could handle that. So you must of course continue....


And the $1200 figure is over a decade old. Start thinking of $2000 or $3000 as a minimum.
You mean Mark hasn't come up with a new worth tour yet. He must need some more money. :roll: What, did you think I was going to let that one slide?

If you even tried to do a fraction of what Mark and others have done you might understand how we feel and why we are adamant. You might get why it's important. You might see why we care about others making a liveable wage.

What has Mark ever done to you personally to deserve this constant attacking him? Has he called you names? Has he singled you out in public? Has he bashed you the way you do him?

Nope. And he never will. He has too much of what you and others like you don't have....Class and tact. You might try getting some.
 

Djjoeeb

Entertainment Director/DJ
Goodknightdj said:
Djjoeeb said:
So the paid listing I have just paid for itself and then some.

Sorry, I can't resist.

But, did you get what you're worth? :lol:

Tom,

Knowing you, and I think I do...

I will say "YES" to your question... ;)

Matter of fact, it's a last minute gig before we leave for our European vacation - it'll buy the Mrs a nice souvenier or two... :D


Shelley said:
]Has he singled you out in public? Has he bashed you the way you do him?

Nope. And he never will. He has too much of what you and others like you don't have....Class and tact. You might try getting some.

Popping some popcorn... :lol:

Yeah, ok. Granted Shelley's post was aimed towards Ron, but I guess it's ok for Mark Ferrell to take quotes from this & other forums & post them on his site. Yeah. That's a class act for sure.

Heck, Mark can't even return a simple phone call. That's DEFINATELY a class act, wouldn't you say Shel?
 

DJ Ron Auger

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It must be a slow day over at DJA. Oh where do we begin hmm?

Because everyone should be able to make enough money in their chosen profession to support their family. Everyone! Not just those of us with the balls to try.
Plus, we should be able to make enough to afford health insurance for our entire family, and be able to take our kids to Disneyland. Not to mention retire comfortably.
And since you have tried but can't seem to reach your goal, you need who to make it happen for you? You are not worried about the other DJ's as much as you're worried about yourself. Nothing wrong with that at all, your family should come first. But from what you say you need the help.

Why is this wrong Ron? Why is is wrong to want to help people?
You DJA people like to put words in peoples mouths. Can you show me where I said it was wrong? Can you show me where I said people shouldn't do this? I've only stated fact about the economy and peoples buying habits. I don't make this stuff up I just work with it.

Why is it wrong to tell them that being away from their families should be worth more than what they make?
Sorry about this but that is just a ridiculous whine. Everyone makes choices, no one forces anyone into their CHOSEN profession. I've spent my entire career away from my family on weekends, holidays, nights, family functions, etc. I certainly didn't whine about it and expect everyone to fix it for me. I mad a choice. I had the balls to offer up myself and sacrifice those special times for my family. So you are whining to the wrong guy here on that issue.

Why is it wrong for us to want to be recognized as a legitimate part of the music industry?
Until you start writing and recording the music you play you are not part of the music industry, you are a DJ.

I think the DJ industry is one of the only industries in the world where you actually hear people saying "I don't want to make more money".
A general assumption but can you show me where anyone has said that?

Somehow I can't hear Steve Jobs or Bill Gates saying they felt like they were ripping off their customers by charging what they charged.
No, they use those dirty words that DJ's are forbidden to say like "rebate, discount, free, included". When you enter into that type of market with that much product to sell then we can talk. Yet another lame excuse because one can't make it happen.

But the difference there is computers are a product. Talent isn't. Computers are tangible. Talent isn't.
And if one has truly great talent they will make it. If one has average talent they will get paid an average fee as more people will have the same average talent. Since the big names in this industry are mostly know to a small group they may have some talent but just not good enough to reach the top.

Know what I think Ron? I think you might be scared. I think you are scared to admit that you see our point.
And I think you think to much. Or you have to many people thinking for you. But that's just my opinion, it doesn't really mean anything.

I think you have gone so far down the road you're on that you can't turn back without losing face.
Oh yea, this is really going to turn me around now. Hallelujah I've seen the light!
If you acknowledge that we might be right you'd have to do what Tom had the guts to do.
I'll agree with you there, Tom had the guts to what guys like Merry and Ferrell don't.
I don't think you could handle that. So you must of course continue....
And I included your name in my discussions where?


And the $1200 figure is over a decade old. Start thinking of $2000 or $3000 as a minimum.
You mean Mark hasn't come up with a new worth tour yet. He must need some more money. :roll: What, did you think I was going to let that one slide?

If you even tried to do a fraction of what Mark and others have done you might understand how we feel and why we are adamant.
I was going to try and sell paintings on a cruise ship but that didn't work out well for him either. I was then thinking of starting my own internet radio but nope no luck there.
You might get why it's important. You might see why we care about others making a liveable wage.
I might see the sales of CD's and workshops go up also. Whatever makes money, all the power to ya.

What has Mark ever done to you personally to deserve this constant attacking him? Has he called you names? Has he singled you out in public? Has he bashed you the way you do him?
Oh I see, I don't have the right to comment on someone selling a product? I don't have the right to review those products. Think now, it's not been Mark that has started all of this. It's not Mark who is here rambling on, it's his faithful followers. Those who believe that if you can't say something nice about Mark then you don't deserve to say anything at all. Sorry, but you're living in a fantasy world.

He has too much of what you and others like you don't have....Class and tact. You might try getting some.
Now that statement tells me that you are just a bit pi$$ed. Take a deep breath and repeat after me "I'm a good person and people like me, they really do like me.

And I'm spent. :lol:

I hear the lock clicking as I type. :wink:
 

DJ Ron Auger

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Now back to the topic at hand.

This program, djslastminute is a great step forward for HELPING those who otherwise might not be able to market properly. It's even a way for people to reach those clients they other wise wouldn't be able to. Mike had taken an idea and ran with it. He is working out the glitches and staying on top of issues that arise. He is available for comments and easily accessible for anyone to talk with. I see this as a business venture that has great potential, one of those "why didn't I think of that" things.

Joe,
Good For You my little polish sausage. Your money was well spent and a client will now get quality entertainment. Hopefully these clients will write review on this site so other can see. And you didn't even have to sacrifice your integrity either. :wink:
 

Heather

Spouse's Forum Moderator
Michael –

I want to applaud you for starting Djslastminute.com. It was a fabulous & innovative idea on your part. I think that everyone can benefit from this program if they just give it a chance. It can also be used as a terrific tool to educate consumers. What people seem to be missing here is the fact that you do not have to accept every bid that comes your way. Great service! Keep it up.

Neal –

I am of the opinion that your client, whether you like it or not, has a hand in setting your prices. I’ll explain why…
People do have these funny things called BUDGETS. They can allot only so much $$ for each category of their event. Depending on what is important to them – if it comes down to a DJ demanding 2000.00 for their event and having food to eat at their event – what do you think they will cut first? If the DJ is willing to be a bit flexible in their rates, I am not saying to play for free – but to have some give-and-take in your asking price, both people will benefit. I would rather work for a little under my asking price than to not work on that day at all. AND it really makes you look great when you work with them and not against them. I have had several parties that I have been flexible with that before the party they realized that they could afford more of my services and I have up-sold additional services and have received more than my original quote. So, I made even more money because I developed a rapport with my client and they trust in my service that I am not just taking them for every penny I can squeeze out of them. It really works out great.

Plus I look at what type of an event it is. If it is just showing up and entertaining a crowd, meaning not a lot of behind the scene planning on my part, I’ll take that into consideration when discussing my price.

Shelley –

Oh girl! What are you doing?

Why does everything have to come back to Mark and the Worth tour? His name wasn’t even mentioned here and you have made this thread all about him. Why? Why the need to drag him through the mud over here when he wasn’t even involved?

You comment that everyone should be able to make enough money in their chosen profession to support their families. I agree. BUT I have to wonder in this present economy if DJing is a profession that will allow people this kind of financial support. Just because you have chosen this path does not mean that this particular industry is made to be a sole support for a family income. I am not saying that good money cannot be made; I am just saying that it may be just a side job for certain areas. I have the balls to ask a fair price in my market without flinching. It is not a problem for me. HOWEVER people may not pay it. Balls or not, it is the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts. Deal with it.

You talk about getting paid to be away from your family on the weekends….What do people who have commercial jobs get paid for working shift work on the weekends. Maybe a small shift differential, but I can tell you that it is nowhere near hundreds of dollars an hour. And these are the clients that we are selling our services to. Middle class America who is being hit with price increases across the board. Wake up!

Your reference to the computer gurus is ludicrous. DJs are an “in the moment” commodity. Computers and the like are machines that enable you to do many facets of everyday life. Let’s not get ridiculous.

And then you go back to Mark and BOO HOO about people bashing him. Where in this thread has his name been mentioned except by you?

OK there was a reference of “did you get what you were worth” by Tom. Again, No one but a DJA-convert even mentioned anything about Mark in any of our posts. Ok, so maybe he was joking around...

To everyone –

Ya know, I am getting so fed up with people telling me who my hero/idols should be. Who I should follow, what I should charge, who my client should be, and who I am supposed to respect. At what point in time have I gone completely stupid and can no longer think for myself? I find it rude and quite invasive to have other people’s opinions jammed down my throat on a daily basis on this board.

Let me tell you something! Two weeks ago, we attended a SNAPDJ meeting and it was the most refreshing atmosphere and comfortable learning environment I have experienced in a long time. There was no bashing, no looking over your shoulder to see who was coming, no confrontations; and I left there with a new found sense of empowerment in this industry. AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH FERRELL!!!!!!!!! He wasn’t even a blip on the radar and that just showed me that MARK is not the be all end all in this industry. There are people with very valuable knowledge out there with just as much if not more marketing impact as Mark.

SO Shelley – take your pom poms back to DJA. Your “Rah! Rah!” is not needed.

As far as your comment about class and tact with regard to Ron – You are in no way of the status to even make such comments. Ron has something that you do not see in many people anymore. He has a wonderful heart, common sense, genuine compassion for people, and the soul of a true hero. That man has more integrity in his pinky than you will ever have in your entire being. That just goes to show me again what a naïve girl you really are. You really overstepped your bounds Shelley and I think a public apology to Ron is required here.

Michael -

Again with your website – keep up the great job!


Heather
 

BBBuffalo

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Djjoeeb said:
Yeah, ok. Granted Shelley's post was aimed towards Ron, but I guess it's ok for Mark Ferrell to take quotes from this & other forums & post them on his site. Yeah. That's a class act for sure.
Based on what he is doing it is full of class. He has quoted some of the misinformation that has be written about him and exposed it for what it is.

He took that a step further and invited those who cowardly write about him elsewhere to come and debate him.

Only 1 was brave enough to do so.

Joe was your first $2000 event before or after you heard about Mark and other DJs being able to make more?
 

BBBuffalo

Active Member
Heather said:
Neal –

I am of the opinion that your client, whether you like it or not, has a hand in setting your prices. I’ll explain why…
People do have these funny things called BUDGETS. They can allot only so much $$ for each category of their event. Depending on what is important to them – if it comes down to a DJ demanding 2000.00
Didn't your hubby just recently boast about his first $2000 event?

Heather said:
I am not just taking them for every penny I can squeeze out of them. It really works out great.
On this we can agree. No DJ should EVER try to "squeeze" more out of any client. I hope that's not what Joe did for his.

For me, my clients want my service and pay my fee. No squeezing required. (but they do always hug me afterwards and tell me that it was great, so that's kind of a squeeze)

Heather said:
At what point in time have I gone completely stupid .
:shock:


Heather said:
Two weeks ago, we attended a SNAPDJ meeting and it was the most refreshing atmosphere and comfortable learning environment I have experienced in a long time. There was no bashing, no looking over your shoulder to see who was coming, no confrontations; and I left there with a new found sense of empowerment in this industry.
Would you please share everything that you learned there (and the credentials of those presenting the information) :D :D
 

Djjoeeb

Entertainment Director/DJ
Gee Neal,

I guess some people can't read what's written...

Maybe larger print is NEEDED:

You taking notes Neal? The wedding I did back in June was NOT my first $2000 event. It was my FIRST $2K WEDDING!

The first time I crossed the $2K barrier? Actually, the $3K barrier was back in 2006 for a (YOU READY FOR THIS ONE Neal????) - A HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR PROM!

There, does that help you get the picture? Mark & GWYW had nothing then, or now to do with our accomplishments...


....still waiting for that phone call.... :lol:

Neal,

I think Bill has a good point - Sign up for a free listing at Michael's site. Set your cut-off for $2K or even $3K & just wait for the gigs to come pouring in. It's free, so what do you have to lose?
 
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