Can Somebody Explain Please Explain This

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Mr.Martin

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There is a situation going on in this country that Could greatly impact your business. I guess I'm a little more than curious why an average of only 4 posts per day have been made on this thread. Only 15 people have participated in the thread.

http://start.prodj.com/showthread.php?t=46638

It appears to me that music and gear threads are what concern most DJs. Why is that?

For those of you in business, please feel free to share your thoughts in the above thread.
 
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djrox

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You really want an answer...this place and most others are not populated with BUSINESSMEN.

P.S. ...and we have developed into a nation that is populated by individuals that can't see past their outstretched arms and open hands. Sadly more seek hand outs than hand ups. JMHO
 
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Mr.Martin

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Rocky:

Thank you for your reply. I always learned that if you are going to be in business, you need to talk about business every now and then.

The "music game threads" are cute, but they probably will not go very far at preparing business owners of the deeper recession that many see coming.
 

Dave Miller

Reverend Dave
Joe -

You are, at least at the moment, full of contradictions.


It appears to me that music and gear threads are what concern most DJs. Why is that?
Why is what? That you perceive that we're more interested in being a DJ than figuring out what's wrong with the US economy? If top financial people can't figure it out, what chance do we have? Oh, sure, we all have our opinions, but you know what they say about everybody and their opinions...


You really want an answer...this place and most others are not populated with BUSINESSMEN.
That's open to debate. Sure, we're not all businessmen, but some are. But to clairy, those of us that are businessmen, are trying to run a small local business. Whether its a single or multi-op, it's certainly not something that can influence the national economy. Be influenced by the national economy? Sure. But for us to be able to figure out how that affects us is a longshot.




47 views and not 1 comment? All I can say is Wow.
Were you expecting replies here? Let me remind you what you said:
For those of you in business, please feel free to share your thoughts in the above thread.


While I'm at it, let me remind you what you said in that very thread:
Remind me on Jan 1, 2009 to respond to this thread. I want to see some dust settle before I comment.
 

djrox

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Rocky:

Thank you for your reply. I always learned that if you are going to be in business, you need to talk about business every now and then.

The "music game threads" are cute, but they probably will not go very far at preparing business owners of the deeper recession that many see coming.
Don't mistake membership in a forum with legitimate business acumen. You are WAAAAAAAY (<-lol) too experienced to have overlooked that.

Manage what you can when you can and let the chips fall where they may.


Good Luck in the coming quarters!
 

Mr.Martin

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Teddy:

The "Jan 1" comment was the first comment I made on that thread. I don't need to wait 10 more weeks to make my comments now. I made several posts after the first one in which I offered advise to those thinking of buying a house. You might ask what that has to do with "DJing". Last time I checked most DJs need a place to live. Some even have their offices in their home.

I agree, we as DJs may not solve the financial ills of the world, be we darn sure can be prepared if things get worse.

Concerning the U.S. economy, you say "Top financial people can't figure it out". Are top financial people now working as Disc Jockeys? Is it possible for disc jockeys to discuss financial concerns as they relate to our industry?
 

DJSTEVEZ

DJ Emeritus
Good question Joe, as always.
I have to agree with Rocky, while there are some great people on the board, few, regardless of how I may feel about them, have ever impressed me with their sense of business.

Given that many jocks here are not solely reliant on DJing for their income, I would imagine they may have a decreased sense of urgency about the whole thing. I know for me the rule has always been never budget your lifestyle on tips & clips ;)

The other issue or question is why do people come to this board in the first place? I know for me, a jock who is not solely reliant on DJ-ing for my income, I come here for the camaraderie & fun. The board is a source of entertainment and recreation for me. It is where I come after dealing with things I don't enjoy. It's kinda like an on-line bar or lounge for DJ's. I enjoy shooting the $#!+ with friends I've made, sharing my 2 cents, helping out a fellow DJ (or at least trying to) as well as learning stuff and being helped out myself from time to time. Being that's the case for me, the last thing I want to discuss is the gloom & doom that has become the economy. It's not that I'm not thinking about it. My partner & I have had multiple conversations about re-tailoring our business plan to the new realities of our economic climate. It’s just not something I come here to discuss. I’ll sometimes comment on it if I haven’t already seen someone say something similar to what I’m thinking. That’s just me. –Z-
 

djrox

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Thanks Steve. I understand and appreciate where you are coming from.
I second that.

Very well stated Steve. Next round is on me.

Barkeep, I'll have a Guinness (it is not coincidental how close that is to genius), hook Mr. Capo Di Tutti Capi up with another Cuba Libre and give Grandpa Martin another Old Fashion. That is unless they are working. In that case, no sauce for you!
 

DJason

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I live in Canada...nothing has really happened to us yet. I'm waiting to see what happens after our federal election today.
 

jillian

New Member
Joe,
This board is an escape for many people, me included. And, If through posting mindless threads, I can make a person smile or think about something other than this dark cloud hanging over our heads it is a day well spent.

I personally cannot handle anymore talk about the economy. We discuss it daily within my company and we are bombarded by it on the news. Between this and the elections I don't sleep much.

The few minutes I get on this board, reading about others interesting events, playing a game or learning about gear recharge my mind and, believe it or not, help me to focus on my business.

Joe, you are a true asset to this board and I have always enjoyed reading your posts so please don't take this post the wrong way. This is just one girls opinion on how she used the boards.
 

bjojade

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I will have to agree that for many on here, the concept of business talk blows their mind. I'd rather hash out economics with a group of people that are much more knowledgeable on the subject than I am. I know enough about business to know that I don't know enough about it.

On here, you get the discussion on which speaker I should buy for $800 every week, but I don't think I've ever seen a thread started that asks how much I should budget for speakers. It's, got the cash, want to spend it mentality. I know back in my younger days, that's how I'd operate. I wish someone would have slapped me in the head back then and told me how to run a business. Instead, I kept my head in the sand for a very long time spending what I had when I had it with no real direction. I bought because it was cool.

Now, I still do that, and I spend a heck of a lot more on useless toys, but it's because I have a 'toys' budget now that I can spend on useless stuff just because. It's only a fraction of my budget, but it's my favorite fraction.
 

Mr.Martin

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Jill:

Point well taken. Thanks. Maybe I should get away from things for a while. I get perplexed when I see us, as Americans continue to make the same mistakes over and over. While some might think now is a very good time to spend money (although I am buying some stock investments), I'm not one of them.

Some Americans think today is a golden opportunity to buy a home. Many of those same people will attempt to buy a home on a 30 year loan for no money down and their day jobs are on Shakey ground. Has nothing been learned? Maybe I want to help others too much when it comes to money. Others are being sucked into auto dealer showrooms and being shown 84 month loans. What a deal!
 

bjojade

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People are stupid and/or greedy. Unfortunately, our society is set up to help stupid people from getting too much in trouble. Part of what happened right now is that people lived on borrowed money while the wealth was transfered to the very rich. The common folk didn't notice because they were given credit to live on for a few years as it happened. Well, the rich have never held a larger percentage of the country's wealth since the great depression. It took Roosevelt taxing the hell out of them to put things back in line.

As of right now, it's estimated that the top 1% of Americans control over 40% of the country's wealth. If we were to tap that 1% of people, you could easily solve this 'crisis' However, it's these wealthy people that pay for the politicians in office, so you're going to be hard pressed to see that happen.
 

jillian

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Joe,
I really understand where you are coming from. I have a member of my family, whose job is on very shaky ground, just build a huge new home. He will never learn. And all of the idiots like him will never learn. It is truly sad.
 

djrox

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People are stupid and/or greedy. Unfortunately, our society is set up to help stupid people from getting too much in trouble. Part of what happened right now is that people lived on borrowed money while the wealth was transfered to the very rich. The common folk didn't notice because they were given credit to live on for a few years as it happened. Well, the rich have never held a larger percentage of the country's wealth since the great depression. It took Roosevelt taxing the hell out of them to put things back in line.

As of right now, it's estimated that the top 1% of Americans control over 40% of the country's wealth. If we were to tap that 1% of people, you could easily solve this 'crisis' However, it's these wealthy people that pay for the politicians in office, so you're going to be hard pressed to see that happen.
...and you wonder Joe?
 

DJSTEVEZ

DJ Emeritus
As of right now, it's estimated that the top 1% of Americans control over 40% of the country's wealth. If we were to tap that 1% of people, you could easily solve this 'crisis' However, it's these wealthy people that pay for the politicians in office, so you're going to be hard pressed to see that happen.
I believe Gordon Gekko placed it as the top 1% owning more than 50% of the nation's wealth. Rumor has it he'll be seen again in "Money Never Sleeps", the sequal to "Wall Street" which is in pre-production. A 2006 study has world wide wealth distribution as the top 2% controlling 50% of the world's wealth. How do I get to DJ events for Mr. Gekko? I got it, an ad on Craigslist! That'll do it!

 

Ken Heath

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Joe,

I certainly don't pretend to know much about business or economics...I'm not a moron, (regardless of what some people think of the Moderators), but I still don't really know that much compared to you.

What I do know is that at ProDJ we have specific boards for specific topics, although most everyone wants to post on the General Conversation board to get more attention to their topic due to the exponentially higher traffic of said board. While it is true that business discussions should be something we all are concerned and involved with, there is a specific board for the topic which might explain why you don't see much of it here on GenCon.

Business is a mutating thing...a couple of years ago my wife was working for Ameriquest as a Level II Legal Analyst (she reviewed loan docs for irregularities and illegalities in concert with various state's Attorney's General)...Ameriquest is gone now, so she's now affiliated with a loss mitigation legal practice reviewing loan documents for irregularities and illegalities that might allow for people to keep their homes a little longer. It's almost the same job but with a different direction.
 
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