Appology, of sorts.

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#1someguy

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I dissagree with this, completely disagree. My thoughts, feelings, and opinions are mine and I should be allowed to express them when I see fit. My comments that I am supposed to be appologizing for?
"In all my years of audio, with lots of reading...I have come across two groups of people, those that really like bose, and those that really don't like bose. The ones that like bose tend to be those people who do not know much about speakers or audio. The ones that don't like bose are the audiophiles, the enthusiasts, the professionals...the ones who KNOW audio!"
There is nothing wrong with that! Clarification perhaps? Sure. Not knowing much about speakers or audio, in the sence that they do not really give a spit about the specs, the measurements, the numbers...they are the ones that just listen and say do I like it, yes or no. Fair? I think so!
Second Issue:
Also if I'm to be banned, which ultimately would be pretty childish in regards to whoever chooses to do so, I would perfer to simply be warned and leave on my own terms. Banning is a cowardly act, leaving allows whoever bans me to keep their dignity.
It's true...think of it as the bully in the playground. I got the power, so I'm going to remove you because I don't like you. It's as simple as that. Banning is cowardly, just as the bully is. If you can't deal with a difference of opinion and have to remove this person from "your domain" then YES it is cowardly.

As for the appology part. I am sorry that I upset some people on this forum. I do like this forum and enjoy posting and reading here which is why I am making some effort to stick around. I do not mean to insult or belittle anyone, and if I disagree with what you have said it is only that my opinion differs from yours. Nothing more. It DOES NOT mean you are less of a professional.

That's all I will appolagize for.


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Chris Hollowell

New Member
Bad move my friend.

Im not attacking you but I beg to differ......

What good is an appology when it isn't sincere?

Did you think that submitting an oppology for show was going to satisfy anyone? Especially attracting obvious attention to fact that your oppology wasn't real.

Do you care to remain a member here or not?

That is up to you to decide. If it's no big deal to you either way (stay or go) and you would rather leave on your own terms, then make the call.

Know this. You were NOT the focus of my post in my thread. But clearly you have rubbed a few people the wrong way, just as I did when I first started here.

It's up to you. I'd like to to stay around and share what experience you have to offer others. Whatever it may be. But if you don't abide by the T.O.S. that has been well stated many times........you won't have that choice for long.

Try again?
 

DJGK

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#1,

You obviously don't get it. The moderators lock a thread that you turned into a free-for-all so you decide to start another thread?

Yes, you are absolutely entitled to your opinions, just like any of us here, but to take swings at a seasoned professional who was only sharing his experience and offering HIS OPINION goes beyond what this board is all about and just good taste, for that matter. You need to learn that quite often it is not what is said, but how it is said and interpreted (in this case by several folks who've been offended). While most of us are very passionate about our systems and the way we run our businesses, it's that uniqueness that keeps us from being a cookie cutter industry. It has been stated on this board at least a million times that sound is very subjective and that what works well for one isn't worth taking out of the box for another. Once again....the reason that so many speaker companies exist and offer different levels of equipment within their lines.

The lack of sincerity on your "apology" was pretty obvious. You've contributed quite a bit to this board and hopefully taken away at least as much, why not try to take that into account and let this one go?
 

#1someguy

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I was told to post an appology or I was gone within 48 hours. So I am doing just that. I appologized for what I believed I could appologize for snicerely which is if I upset or offended anyone. I am not applogizing for expressing my opinion though! Plain and simple, I cannot be subjected to censorship of my opinion. If that isn't enough, then come monday I suppose I won't see you guys anymore.
 

polarsounds

In Self-Imposed Exile
I think the reason that some people are doubting your sincerity is because you posted an apology and a defiant "last stand." If you had simply apologized for what you could, then no one would have been likely to object.
 

#1someguy

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polarsounds said:
I think the reason that some people are doubting your sincerity is because you posted an apology and a defiant "last stand." If you had simply apologized for what you could, then no one would have been likely to object.
Is that what you would do? Especially after someone pointed out two specific things to appolagize for when you do not think they warrent an appology? I doubt it. Stand up for what you believe in ....
 

#1someguy

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clipuptags said:
APOLOGY - a·pol·o·gy
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/pronounce?id=A0370100&path=prons/A0370100.wav

1. An acknowledgment expressing regret or asking pardon for a fault or offense.

2. A formal justification or defense.
An explanation or excuse: "The consequence of those measures will be the best apology for my conduct" (Daniel Defoe).

3. An inferior substitute: The sagging cot was a poor apology for a bed.


Nuff Said
Seems I've taken care of numbers 1 and 2...hmm and 3rd doesn't apply. :D
 

Corey Rock

Nubsauce Dancer
Defiance and a bad attitude will get you nowhere! Being part of this community has rewarded me 10 fold. You want to throw that away, that's cool...make your stand. This is a private board with rules and respect for one another. Listen and learn, you will walk away a master instead of a grasshopper!
 

#1someguy

New Member
polarsounds said:
#1someguy said:
Seems I've taken care of numbers 1 and 2...hmm and 3rd doesn't apply. :D
#3 does apply. Look at the title of your thread.

This is the best apology you're going to get though. Therefore this is not an inferior substitute for an appology, therefore it does not apply.

If you can't accept this much, then you people are no better then I.
 

polarsounds

In Self-Imposed Exile
So, if we don't believe that "an apology, of sorts" is a sincere apology, then we are bad people? Interesting. Enjoy your career in politics.
 

Brandon Fisher

Active Member
Opinions vary and thats good. It makes for a quality discussion when done in the right way. You however did not do it in the right way yours was quite insulting just as this so called apology is. My take is that you are trying to take a last stand hoping the mod's will except it as an apology. I being one of the senior mod's and staff members of ProDJ.com find it just as insulting and arrogant as the orignal post that brought this on.
 

#1someguy

New Member
Take it or leave it. I've said what I've needed to say. I'm walking away from this completely. I'll keep my eye on what you have to say but don't expect any replies on this matter. This fire has enough fuel as it is...I'm taking away it's breath.
 

Chris Hollowell

New Member
Something tells me that you won't be having the last word on this one.
Unfortunate choice.....

Guess the question now is will you still visit to read since you can't write, or not bother to come back at all?

enjoy the silence.
 

Success

New Member
#1someguy,

I am reminded of a few years back this guy joined our firm, he was very intelligent, with long impressive IT experience and well educated; he became very popular as soon as he came on board - since he always had a lot to say and was extremely talkative. At first, he was liked and well accepted, but as time went along, he developed a reputation for being, not only rude and obnoxious, but everyone agreed he was the most STUBBORN person they'd ever known. He will argue and argue and argue a point to no-end, will present all kinds of documentation, but if the reality of a situation, variables, etc., proved different from his "theoretical know-how", forget it, he will not back down, despite disagreement from majority. Well, people just started to ignore him, group leaders deliberately did not invite him to meetings, and somehow he just faded-away and eventually left the company. It was a shame and lost, because, otherwise, he really was intelligent (but very closed-minded and not smart).

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The following is not to start back up the Bose issue, but just to show the many DJs, and customers as well, like the Bose systems: I've attended some events hosted by this one DJ who loves his Bose 802 and 502 system. He's done from small weddings - using the two 802 and just one 502, which turned out excellent. He's also done larger parties with the two 802 and the two 502 bass modules placed side-by-side, and the sound was great, lots of bass, in each case folks had great times. He also uses two Crown amps. To be honest, I wish I had as mush business, at times, as he does All the times - he's always busy. This coming weekend, he's hosting a big 80th birthday party for some well to do exec. type's dad.

So despite the specs, the cheap drivers in the 802s, and the engineering tricks used by Bose, his system sounds very nice full sound, silky-smooth with sufficient bass. And, he's making money, always.

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Well, not sure about your, "apology of sorts", but for making an effort we have decided to get you an early Christmas gift, see below. It's been sent priority via UPS. Now, now now, Please do not get into an argument with the UPS guy about Bose, remember he's only there to deliver the package; just sign the electronic pad, accept delivery, unpack, insert one of your best CDs, and while playing, please don't look at the unit - to avoid getting upset, just Close Your Eyes And Enjoy, as you sip on a nice tall drink of your choice. If you do this long enought, at some point, you'd
go, "Ahh, that's nice"!!!


http://www.bose.com/controller?event=DTC_LINKS_TARGET_EVENT&DTCLinkID=2589&perfsourceid=k55167&src=k55167

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"Let There Be Peace On Earth"

DJ Success

(P.s. Now, it's time for "Saturday Night Live", on the East cost. Maybe the'll show a skit about some-guy smashing an expensive Bose system on the floor to pieces - while banging his head against the wall. Who knows, it's a strange sort of show, anyhow.)
 

classactparty

New Member
Hmmm...

You call it an apology but you don't agree that it merits an apology. Do you call that be sorry or expressing remorse for your actions? You say "I don't give a (Insert trailer trash expletive for feces)". Your vocabulary is an insult to this profession as well.

If you really don't care, then I suggest you find somewhere else to post your sorry excuse for a vocabulary. There are rules here to keep our disagreements civil. Those who refuse to follow them need to find another place that better suits their opinions.
 

jwg

New Member
I'm expecting the less than sincere apology will NOT be accepted. I was cocky when I was 19, thought I knew it all. Guess what I f***kin didn't.

Now, I am 45 and am learning something new every day. I don't know it all and am willing to share ideas and learn more.

As you try and supposedly apologize more...your cockiness is bleeding even more. I have no use for people like that.

IGNORE!
 
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