40,000 Pre loaded MP3's

Went to a club we play often. We were booked there last night but there was a dbl booking and we let the other DJ take it.
Nice to have a night off.
Anyway I was talking to the DJ, he showed me his setup and said he bought the digital hardware, software and 40,000 pre loaded mp3's and and 40,000 digital kareoke tunes as a unit for 4k with the license for 10 other setups.
Anyone know where I can get a deal like that??

One word...

I - L - L - E - G - A - L !

Spell it with me...

Yep its reaks of it being a illegal setup.

Zorphias,

The old saying "if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is!" might be applicable in this situation.

That he bought the hardware is legal...that whoever he bought it from was able to organize and secure licensing agreements with all the different music publishers involved with 80,000 tracks...questionable at best!

You state that he had a license with it...from what governing body? Respectfully, I can print up a "license" that says I can do whatever I want, whether the Courts will agree with the validity of said license is another story!

Caveat Emptor!

40'000 pre loads

where is it where this person lives.With the laws in canada different than the laws down in the usa he might be allowed to do this.

Zorphias
Location: West Central Ohio

"...Went to a club we play often...."








I don't think it's in Canada.

canada is even more strict than us....

I have seen this... there's a guy in ohio, a guy in texas, and a guy in south carolina all selling the same systems....

they claim they're all licensed, and they offer an update service for life....

bogus!

I know a guy who bought one... he was trying to compete with me... I came to check it out when he got it, and formatted the disk in front of him.

they are lying!

the estimated value of the music he got is over $65,000.00 for the karaoke, and over $40,000.00 for the music.... who's gonna' license that for $4,000.00??????

and then give you a cracked copy of virtual DJ, cracked copy of sax-n-dotty's show hoster, and a cracked version of PCDJ FX? Are cracks part of some new licensing thing these companies are doing??????

illegal as hell!

but as long as there's idiots out there, there will always be someone willing to part them from their money...

-Steve

I guess the real question was where could he get something like that. Well I can answer it several ways but will go the easy one.


EBAY.

Buy until your heart is filled with emotion at EBAY. They will take your auction off the block if you are selling a CB radio that has been modified have a single new simi private freq in it but will let an auction run that has a hard drive full of music and leave it there because it says " you must obtain a lic to have this music" or something of the sort. CRAP!!!!!!


I need to whooosaaa and get over it.. Best of luck to ya.

Says he has a license to use it on 10 systems. I never asked if it was for the tunes, the OTSDJ or both.
Saw a red flag as soon as he told me what he had for the $$ but if it were legal it would be an awesome deal for sure.
Think it came from Colorado if I remember right.
BTW, that was the 1st time I had seen a rack mount pc. Pretty cool and a tough looking rascal...
Thanks folks for the info!!

Zorph

Should have asked him to show you the licence and then say well when the RIAA or one of them lot see it they can verify if its legit or not, when they take his music away or not!!!

I can see big red flags on that setup - hope the club has insurance and a good lawyer when they get busted..

steve:

quote: I know a guy who bought one... he was trying to compete with me... I came to check it out when he got it, and formatted the disk in front of him.

Did you get his permission? Or did you just barge in during the invite and format?
It is sad to say some people buy illegal things, but he may not have known better. If it was bought through ebay, he might have been able to recover his money through ebay. Also, if you formatted MY hard drives, I know I would be coming after you. This would be seen as possibly ruining a competitors business regardless if he was ethically doing business. The best thing is have him take action and report him having cracked software to the appropriate companies for them to enforce their trademark protections against cracked code. Formatting the drives may have been proper, but the RIAA rules for DJ's are basically interpreted as you should have some type of electronic media to back up your mp3 files. with the advent of dowloadable music from the internet this is getting harder to enforce. Rule 2 states unless you a playing a private party (paying guests), the venue must secure appropriate licensing for the event location (such as a restaurant or park) All we have to do is see verfication of licenses before doing the event.

Webfire - Could you tell us where you found these rules for DJs explained and posted?

the RIAA rules for DJ's are basically interpreted as you should have some type of electronic media to back up your mp3 files. with the advent of dowloadable music from the internet this is getting harder to enforce. Rule 2 states unless you a playing a private party (paying guests), the venue must secure appropriate licensing for the event location (such as a restaurant or park) All we have to do is see verfication of licenses before doing the event.

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Best Regards,
Alan

Out here in the wild, wild west, had you walked into my house and formatted my hard drive, well . . .

You'd have gotten an @$$ kickin' like no other!

It doesn't matter that the music database that guy had was illegal!

What you did was more illegal!

I agree. Whether the music was legal or not was not for you to decide. If you believe it was illegal, call the RIAA. If they dont take action, shame on them.

If he asked you to reformat after you pointed out the potential liability, cool.

Otherwise, to touch someone else's equipment is not only unprofessional, but, you SHOULD have gotten your ass kicked. Anyone who attempts to damage my equipment would get that, and damn quick.

Since when are we, as DJs, both judge and jury?

If someone caused $4000.00 in damage to my equipment, I'd be damn pissed.

Not very smart.

I hear there are clubs in Seattle that have hard drives that were supplied from some bottom feeder. The club owners load it and then pay some slacker $50 to take requests. Some good friends of mine are having issues getting into the clubs.

If that was going on here in Spokane, I would have the RIAA all up in their a$$.

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If that was going on here in Spokane, I would have the RIAA all up in their a$$.

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If you could get them to stop yawning.

I'm not sure if that was a jab on Spokane or the RIAA?